Well, tulips are at least pretty flowers. "Digital Coins" are ... well, ... Numbers? Solutions to some arbitrary and not-actually-useful mathematical problems.
@LRRRonEarth @Moosader Interesting claim!
I'm skeptical, though; I'd guess driving to blockbuster is way worse than (data center carbon/sec) ÷ (views per second)
But that's a wild guess. Have you seen a rigorous analysis of this?
I suspect the old model where they mail you DVDs might have been the best of all :) I miss those days.
@ech @Moosader THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I AM A SHITPOSTER AND AN IDIOT AND NOT AN ENGINEER OR TECH PERSON, SO I WOULD TAKE MY CLAIMS ABOUT CARBON INTENSITY WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. I LOCATED THE FOLLOWING, NON-COMPREHENSIVE POST SUGGESTING THAT THE COST OF STORING 1GB ON THE CLOUD IS BETWEEN 3KWH AND 7KWH (OVER WHAT PERIOD, IT IS NOT CLEAR). THE ENERGY COSTS OF RETRANSMITTING STORED VIDEO ARE SIMILARLY NOT EXAMINED https://greenly.earth/en-us/blog/ecology-news/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-data-storage (DATED 2017)
https://greenly.earth/en-us/blog/ecology-news/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-data-storage [DATED 2022]
https://www.google.com/amp/s/techxplore.com/news/2023-01-big-hidden-carbon-footprint-science.amp [2023]
IT MAY NOT BE A PARTICULARLY PRONOUNCED EFFECT NOW, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE TYPICAL ENERGY COST OF CLOUD STORAGE IS TODAY FOR HULU OR NETFLIX.
I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE MY VOTE TO THE MACHINE THAT CAN'T DRAW HANDS.
@LRRRonEarth Which set of numbers are you using? There was a news article going around a couple of years ago that was, like, off by an order of magnitude, and I'm intrigued to see if that got sticky.
OTOH, maybe even the correct numbers are way more carbon intensive.
@sgf IT'S PROBABLY BEST IF I JUST WITHDRAW THIS COMMENT ENTIRELY AT THIS POINT. RAW CONJECTURE FUELED BY SKIMMING HEADLINES ABOUT HOW ENERGY INTENSIVE CLOUD STORAGE IS. THAT'S A BAD WAY TO MAKE AN OPINION.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE CARNEGIE MELLON NUMBERS. FULL DISCLOSURE: I WAS PROBABLY ON THE JOHN, AND DEFINITELY NOT CONDUCTING A RIGOROUS REVIEW.
@Moosader There's at least one option missing:
"Stealing personal data, invasion of privacy"
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@Moosader final tallies:
Favorite tech innovation:
• Illegal cab company: 16%
• Illegal hotel chain: 12.2%
• Fake money for criminals: 38%
• Plagiarism machine: 33.9%
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