Calling it a gotcha that I "critique Biden policies after voting for him" is what's wrong with US politics today.

Voting for him doesn't mean I can't critique him—it's literally the best reason to be critical. It's called holding electeds accountable. It's how democracy works. And it’s how political parties work when they aren’t cults.

@QasimRashid Should be really obvious. But sadly some people don't see it that way.

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As he's only another flawed vessel it'd be weirdly improbable to find no feature of the man and his policies amenable to critique.

My critique prior to voting summed up as "net outcome better with this candidate than with the alternative."

I have strong quibbles with many details but I've not been disappointed with expected overall results.

The durable significance of this choice lies in shaping the federal judiciary. I wish we had more fodder for critique in that dept.

@Doug_Bostrom @QasimRashid Well, as someone who hopes that humanity isn't going to destroy itself by global heating, I've been bitterly disappointed with Biden.

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/biden-administration-oil-gas-drilling-approvals-outpace-trumps-2023-01-24/

Yes, Obama was worse: https://archive.thinkprogress.org/obamas-worst-speech-ever-we-ve-added-enough-new-oil-and-gas-pipeline-to-encircle-the-earth-e5e24a156910/

(Of course, the Republicans are even worse, but that's a given.)

I feel most people have just given up on a future for our ecosystem.

Biden Administration Oil, Gas Drilling Approvals Outpace Trump’s

Center for Biological Diversity: Massive Fossil Fuel Expansion Undermines U.S. Climate Commitments

Center for Biological Diversity
@QasimRashid True. A healthy democracy is working towards the same end but having disagreements about policy is called independent thinking as opposed to the GOP standard of lemmings without brains who prefer authoritarian dictators which allows them to be submissive without any responsibility.
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How is he supposed to know what his voters want if they don’t criticize his performance?

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The biggest difference between the right and left, is that the left calls a wart a wart, and a crime a crime, instead of refusing to see it, or, worse, defending crimes and warts.

Joe ain't perfect. He's mostly sane, though, and these days, that means something.

@QasimRashid @Popehat well gee, what a man! You voted for him. BFD. Now you get to rile the torch bearers to come back. Your intellect is nonexistent

@rkleim @QasimRashid @Popehat demanding silence from voters is the refuge of despots, not the disinfecting sunlight sought by defenders of a functional democracy.

If Biden can’t take criticism from even those who voted for him, he’s not fit for the job.

@QasimRashid “You are not beholden to a cult of personality like I am! Checkmate lib!”

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It’s so maddening. Nuance is derided. Even worse, it’s somehow bad to change one’s view after receiving new information.

As Colbert put it: “George Bush believes the same thing on Wednesday that he did on Monday, regardless of what happened Tuesday.”

(And oh how I miss the days when I thought Dubya was the nadir. Silly me.)

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So much criticism of Democrats is what has led to so much voter apathy though too so it might not be a good strategic move in terms of realpolitik perhaps.

@GreenFire @QasimRashid Suppression/ lack of criticism & self-criticism is the questionable badge of "honor" of dicktatorial entities like the regimes of Putin, China's Xi, Kim Jong Un & other despots.

It's what distinguishes dicktatorships from the factual Rule of the People aka democracy.

Criticism empowers improvement & progress.

#DefendDemocracy #DefensiveDemocracy #Democracy #YourVoiceMatters #YouMatter #RaiseYourVoice

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There's a big difference between criticizing something to someone in a library over a glass of whiskey versus criticizing one's allies publicly, especially amplifying it onto social media endlessly. That's why General Flynn and Trump chose the GOP for their attempted coup or do you think that Republicans engage in more self-reflection publicly than do us Democrats you keep speaking about so harshly?

@GreenFire @QasimRashid You completely misunderstood (again), what I said, turning it upside down.

Organized suppression of criticism is a feature of dicktatorships & an offense to democracies.

Got it?

And no, I don't see any introspection with today's "Republicans".

#DefendDemocracy #DefensiveDemocracy #Democracy #Freedom #YourVoiceMatters #YouMatter

@ArenaCops @QasimRashid
You completely misunderstood (again), what I said, missing the point entirely.

You inferred that I support "dicktatorial[ sic] entities" because I express my opinion that it is not helping to get the Republicans out of power with such excessive criticisms of the Democratic Pary.

You're of course welcome to your opinion, but I think that the recent GOP slide towards dictatorial policies supports my contention that we should support Democrats' efforts.

@GreenFire @QasimRashid I wanna have the weed you're taking, dude.

You completely sailed past any understanding, that I'm a democrat.

And btw, when I'm posting the terms "dicktator", "dicktatorial" etc., that's no coincidental mistake.

So forget fucking trying to school or publicly shame me.

Try to get sober, maybe then you'll be able to understand, what I'm posting.

Especially my unmistakable & continuous support of democracy.

Thx for taking the time to reply.

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I see that you are determined to continue trying the same techniques that have continually failed of assuming that publicly criticizing Democrats is going to increase voter turnout. I know it's easier and less comfortable to try something different so I'll ignore your assertion that you are smarter and more capable of critical thinking than am I.

I have to assume that you are no more able to hold a discussion than are the Trumpers though so I'll ignore you from now on.

@QasimRashid ... if I understand, you are madd that someone disagreed with you about disagreeing with someone ?
@QasimRashid It's like the eye rolling and irritation about the whole Let's Go Brandon stuff. We weren't annoyed that they were insulting the president, we just thought they should have the balls to say 'Fuck Joe Biden' like the rest of us were.
@QasimRashid 100% this! We can criticise those we voted for, and we can criticise those we voted against. The only time we can’t criticise is if we could’ve voted but chose not to. Then we have to shut the fuck up until the next election.

@QasimRashid I voted for Biden solely to fill that seat with somebody who wasn’t a fascist.

And I’ll do it again, if need be.

Biden seems like a nice enough guy and I think his intentions are good, but there are enough policy differences that I was never exactly enthused about voting for him.

In the real world sometimes we have to pick between two-suboptimal-but-unequally-bad choices.

That said, he has done some good in some areas. I can acknowledge that.

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It's right up there with (as an American) "you can't be a patriot if you complain about America". A lot of people don't get that "America is an ideal and a promise not yet fulfilled. Me having complaints is me wanting to see it reach those ideals ...for EVERYONE, not just those with means to buy them".

@QasimRashid How retro of you.

In the US we have post-modern political parties: they sell legislation and influence to their donors, and they sell tribalism to their voters.

Ideology is now sucker bait.

@grumble209 @QasimRashid it’s politics, but if politics were actually college sports.
@QasimRashid Ah, but rightwing authoritarianism requires absolutele obedience to the Boss. By RWA thinking, or what passes for it, anything less than subservience is betrayal, and criticism is the same as an attack. And so they try to apply their mentally broken standards to us.
@QasimRashid Especially with our two-party first-past-the-post-with-no-proportional-representation system here in the US.
@QasimRashid Yes, yes, and yes. I am not so stupid as to vote for someone who has no chance in hell of winning — or opt out of voting altogether — in an election in which the alternative is a fascist or a horrible person. But I then intend to constantly nudge the person who I voted for to be better. Often their failure to improve risks a much worse outcome in the subsequent election.
@QasimRashid thanks for stating the obvious lesson about democracy that 1/2 of USA population has apparently forgotten (or never learned ?). Education is needed here....
@QasimRashid Indeed, only dictators are infallible…
@QasimRashid The rapidly increasing dipshittery of American political thought is really something
@QasimRashid Yeah, I voted for him, knowing going in, that in a lot of ways, I really want more than it seems he can give. It's more like a bus ride than a marriage, though.
@QasimRashid I am sharply critical of #joebiden. I feel his administration is not tough enough against rising #fascism among other things. We have a multifaceted #employment disaster brewing in this country. These things are going to hit him hard for #2024. #TheWhiteHouse should also be on #mastodon, and not some bot mirroring his bird site account that's getting muted.
@QasimRashid So many people don't get this fundamental part of democracy.
@QasimRashid Agreed, I also think the same and there are many he’s done I don’t agree with. The disconnect is where single voter issues getting angry with him say “I will not vote for him again”… thus electing whoever his opponent happens to be. Shortsighted, and not prudent since many of those same voters are going to be horrified by the judicial picks and policies that can last decades.
@QasimRashid Bingo. Loyalty has somehow become an absolute.

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I've lost the original attribution, but a quote that I love is "I vote so that I can choose who I'm fighting."

Anyone with any authority whatsoever, especially political authority, should be criticized by the people they have authority over. If I had power and could not be criticized, that would mean I was a tyrant. No one should want to be a tyrant.

@mekkaokereke absolutely right. As flawed as our nations founders were, I appreciate their recognition to form a more perfect Union. That doesn’t happen without critique and revision.
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素敵な言葉をありがとうございました。
@QasimRashid vote for who you'd rather bitch about!
@QasimRashid It's called being an adult instead of being a child.

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As I pre-warned my DailyKos blog community when Obama was first elected: YOU will NOT LIKE every decision made by his administration whether forced by the GOP or as a policy.

I reminded them because Obama was so highly loved a disappointment meant a long, long fall unless they set reasonable expectations.

@QasimRashid The idea of blind loyalty makes no sense. If you hire someone for a job, do you refuse to critique them?
@QasimRashid more people to read this post.

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The big difference to see is between this and vote chilling self-comforting idiocy from people butthurt on Resetera that cringe suburban wine moms are out-progressiving them

@QasimRashid Australia has preferential voting, it means you can vote for the party that you actually want without it being wasted.
If your candidate doesn’t have enough votes to form government your second preference and then third get the vote along with a small sum of money for future campaigning. The lack of preferential voting along with mandatory voting is the worst part of American elections.
@0x6b Also I don't think the US has budget limitations for campaign spending or corporate donations. In Canada at least we have limits, so it gives the smaller parties a fighting chance.
@QasimRashid Also, the Democratic Party isn’t a cult. So idk with these people sometimes. #uspol #uspolitics #gop #Democrats

@QasimRashid One of the biggest disconnects between the two major political parties is how Democrats seem to be happy to critique the Democratic POTUS. It's as if he's a representative and he was elected to perform a job and the electors who supported him can criticize his performance, instead of him being a sacred avatar of divine will beyond reproach.

My only concern is that while there are better potential POTUS candidates, how can we switch and not get that fascist back in the Oval Office?

@QasimRashid yeah. Some of us don't vote for candidates and think of them as idols. They're not team sports.

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It's the "perfect is the enemy of the good" conundrum.

Joe B. hasn't accomplished exactly every good thing (which, have you looked at Congress lately?). So leftists saying the Dem party can't get shit done, as if the GOP didn't exist.

How many of these whiners have actually run for public office?

@QasimRashid US is not really a democracy tho. Most people either can't or don't vote
@QasimRashid Exactly.This "all or nothing" attitude from the Left, that we have to agree with a politician 100% or we won't vote for them, is incredibly harmful. We are so fractured because of this inability to negotiate, compromise, and be constructively critical.

@AshleyMarineP @QasimRashid

If there are two busses, both going away from where I need to go, it doesn't mean I'm "unable to negotiate" if I take neither.

Nothing matters more than NOT killing our biosphere, yet D policies will kill our ecosystem just as fast as R policies.

https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/press-releases/biden-administration-oil-gas-drilling-approvals-outpace-trumps-2023-01-24/

https://archive.thinkprogress.org/obamas-worst-speech-ever-we-ve-added-enough-new-oil-and-gas-pipeline-to-encircle-the-earth-e5e24a156910/

Watch D and R charge toward the Collapse for 50 years is horrifying. Watching people root for their teams as they kill our planet is nauseating.

Biden Administration Oil, Gas Drilling Approvals Outpace Trump’s

Center for Biological Diversity: Massive Fossil Fuel Expansion Undermines U.S. Climate Commitments

Center for Biological Diversity
@QasimRashid Exactly. We have Labor governments in Australia - good, but in many areas they need to be better, especially at a Federal level on the rate of pensions and unemployment payments.
Thankfully we can vote Green, and preference Labor, which means some seats have such members, and we can vote that way without having this assist the right-wing parties ("Liberals, who aren't, and useless Nationals who support frackers over farmers). We certainly critique the party, and critique Greens when they get silly.

@QasimRashid 100%. It's why I care about all parties putting forward decent candidates, even the parties I never vote for.

Healthy democracies require accountability & public discourse.