I remember when Aaron Swartz was criminally prosecuted for downloading too many academic journal articles, but, sure, it's totally cool to scrape everyone's personal photographs as part of a commercial effort to market discriminatory surveillance tech to police departments.

https://www.businessinsider.com/clearview-scraped-30-billion-images-facebook-police-facial-recogntion-database-2023-4

Clearview AI scraped 30 billion images from Facebook to share with police

Law enforcement officers have used Clearview AI's facial recognition database nearly a million times, Hoan Ton-That, the company's CEO, told the BBC.

Insider
@maxkennerly The Aaron Swartz reference here is poignant and still feels like a gut punch. His story is made even more tragic by this comparison.

@maxkennerly well given Facebooks terms of use in which users give Facebook a perpetual, royalty-free license to use any and all data uploaded to the service for any and all purposes … it is totally “cool” and by “cool” I mean legal.

Sadly, no one reads and takes those click-thru agreements seriously and this is the result.

Oops, I guess x over 2 billion people’s privacy.

@Dhmspector Ironic part is, despite how horrible Facebook's TOS are, Facebook itself considered this illegal!

(Probably because Facebook wanted to charge money for it, but still...)

@maxkennerly I forgot they sued Clearview AI! So many bad actors it’s so hard to keep track of all of them!

But you’re spot on, I am sure we’re ticked at being disintermediated by Clearview.

@Dhmspector

@maxkennerly

Yeah, sometimes I feel like we need a stupid-ai.wiki to keep track of it all.

@Dhmspector @maxkennerly If you licensed to Max, you have not licensed to me.

I don't know why people act like the Facebook TOS makes all the content posted public domain. Like, you know they're a voracious corporation but assume they gave away the flowers in their walled garden to everyone? ...for free?? Come on, man.

@maxkennerly And this is why there are no photos of me on the internet

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But it’s Tik Tok that US politicians want to ban. Surveillance capitalism enabling a surveillance state is a-okay so long as it enriches American oligarchs.

@maxkennerly I absolutely love how every single surveillance thing has the “saving children being abused or exploited” argument.
@maxkennerly TO DATE, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF FACIAL RECOGNITION ACCESSABLE AND USED BY COPS, TO FIND MISSING PERSONS INCLUDING CHILDREN.

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People said they were OK with this, when they agreed to the TOS that told them everything they upload belongs to Faceborg.

@maxkennerly And committed suicide as a result of DOJ fuckery. Don't forget that part. Never forget that part, and never forgive either.
@maxkennerly I'd also note: you can not remove your content. They require you to provide government ID and to fully verify your information to submit a request through the California Privacy Act.
@maxkennerly and also too, the real AI Risk is that it will become sentient and kill everyone who tried to stop it.
@maxkennerly its only a crime when it a) affects billionaires b) exploits people not other businesses
@maxkennerly How often are police using facial recognition tech that could hold each other accountable? I bet it's not very often.
@maxkennerly American Law is about kicking the plebians back in line.

@maxkennerly the article's take is a bit breathless and yet doesn't sketch out the actual inevitable consequences: hooking police body cam footage to it.

there's nothing we can realistically do about that _happening_, so the right course of action neatly lines up with the right course of actionon TikTok: don't ban it, emplace strong privacy protection laws instead, with consequences

@maxkennerly All 'people" are equal, but some 'people' are more equal than others.
@maxkennerly gods help the LEO which finds the “personal photographs” from furries. ;)
@maxkennerly @Andres4NY I’ve tried very hard to keep my kids’ images off of social media (I’m the annoying non-media-release-signer parent). It will be, I hope, a great gift to them as adults. This plus trying to keep all family out to third cousins from doing a DNA family history will provide them at least at small amount of privacy when they enter adulthood. Both efforts, though, I fear will be in vain because it doesn’t take much to built facial or dna profiles.
@maxkennerly Do you suppose they scraped a whole bunch of photos of J6 attendees? At least, make yourselves useful, guys...

@maxkennerly The Internet’s Own Boy is a great documentary for anyone unfamiliar with Aaron Swartz’s case…

https://youtu.be/3Q6Fzbgs_Lg

#tech #privacy

The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz (Must Watch Documentary 2014)

The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz (Must Watch Documentary 2014)

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@maxkennerly "Hey, buddy, it's totally different, you clicked through our EULA."
@maxkennerly that is because there are two sets of rules for liberators and oppressors.

The system is working as designed a tool of oppression and must be dismantled.

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Wait; doesn't that make Clearview AI publishers & don't they need 30 billion model releases if they're going to sell those photos?

@maxkennerly I've been considering this for a while now. Codepilot and even chatgpt scraped millions of projects with code that belonged to different licenses. Many of them could have been released under the GNU 3 license, which requires the codebase that uses them to also be open source, yet the source code for these AI systems are closed.
@maxkennerly can the ai do this for mastodon too?
@mcmenguc Everything that isn't set to "Followers only" or "Mentioned people only" is public for everyone and they don't even need to have an account to view it. Any scraper can view this content, much like any non-follower user can view this content. Will the company scrape photos off Mastodon? Probably not, but there's no way of knowing. The rule of thumb is "don't post anything on the Internet you don't want to be misused or stolen."

@maxkennerly yup.
Remember kids: government regulations are bad. You have nothing to hide, trust corporations with your data. Always.

What could go wrong…

@maxkennerly Not only do they extract anything they can find, but the bit they found does not represent the world. One biased step at a time.
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Glad I’m not on that government agency anymore. Been off almost 10 years.
@maxkennerly although the surveillance value is questionable as 27 billion of the images were of food, and 2 billion were political memes.

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You made me remember I got that extralarge file shared for years, but nowadays I have no idea where it is. I should download it again.

@maxkennerly they're just labeling AI did to seem it wasn't anybody behind it.

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#ClearviewAI scraped 30 *billion* photos from social media to build its facial recognition database.

#USpolice have used the database nearly a million times, the company's CEO told the #BBC.

One digital rights advocate told Insider the company is "a total affront to peoples' rights, full stop."

https://www.businessinsider.com/clearview-scraped-30-billion-images-facebook-police-facial-recogntion-database-2023-4?r=US&IR=T

Clearview AI scraped 30 billion images from Facebook to share with police

Law enforcement officers have used Clearview AI's facial recognition database nearly a million times, Hoan Ton-That, the company's CEO, told the BBC.

Insider

@maxkennerly I began making sure pictures of me don't go on the net about 15 years ago.

People kept telling me I'm just paranoid, but to me this result was always painfully obvious.

Now we're at a very dangerous point and people still don't want to realize how much of a problem this really is… but hey, at least I get to say I told y'all so. 😂 😭

@maxkennerly rules for thee but not for me
@maxkennerly Oh and also Turbotax and other tax preparers were selling client data to Google and Facebook becuase how better to market eyeballs than to know their actual wealth?

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Always use someone else's profile photo.