rmogull

Having been on Macs for the past 20 years I was totally unprepared for all the dark patterns I had to navigate setting up a new Windows system.

Constant ads and pushes for additional products. Extensive privacy-violating monitoring defaults. Everything disguised to be for my benefit, but clearly it’s to benefit Microsoft.

MS is actually great at a lot of things. This demeans them.

Feb 2, 2023 at 10:05pmWeb
Show threadpmhesseFeb 2, 2023
@rmogull interesting... i guess that's the experience on the consumer version. the business version (e.g. "enterprise") is quite different. It's pretty stark, even no solitare unless you install it.
Show threadrmogullFeb 2, 2023
@pmhesse I’m on “Pro” so I suspected better but I know that’s till consumer to them.
Show threadDaniël Franke 🏳️‍🌈Feb 2, 2023
@rmogull I feel similar with MacOS... Just in different ways. (Not a Mac or Windows user)
Show threadscribandotcomFeb 2, 2023

@rmogull Entirely anecdotal, but I perceived a drift in this direction when Microsoft reorganized Trustworthy Computing out of existence.

All the functions still exist, but their diffusion throughout Microsoft seemed (again, to me) to coincide with MS taking some liberties with consumer privacy options.

Show threadrmogullFeb 3, 2023
@scribandotcom totally agree
Show threadPaul ChernoffFeb 3, 2023
@rmogull Similar. I was setting up a Win 10 laptop for my godmother. Didn’t come with something like Migration Assistant, just move your files via OneDrive. Fortunately her Chrome profile saved me a lot of work. Want to change font size for File Manager? You have to change size for everything. And I felt they were trying to sell me something the entire time.
Show threadBynkiiFeb 3, 2023
@paulc @rmogull when I was running a desktop support group, we had a very long powershell script that handled initial config, mostly to deal with extraneous bullshit and avoid clicking the wrong thing
Show threadrmogullFeb 3, 2023
@bynkii @paulc That’s depressing
Show threadBynkiiFeb 3, 2023
@rmogull @paulc yeah, but it was fast. And it let us not have to reinstall the same OS on new computers. At https://github.com/johncwelch/windows10setup
GitHub - johncwelch/windows10setup: Powershell scripts I use to help set up new Windows 10 boxes from Dell

Powershell scripts I use to help set up new Windows 10 boxes from Dell - GitHub - johncwelch/windows10setup: Powershell scripts I use to help set up new Windows 10 boxes from Dell

GitHub
Show threadMark FischerFeb 3, 2023
@rmogull iOS is slowly sliding in this direction. I don't subscribe to Apple Music or Apple TV, and no matter how many times I decline or dismiss the 'notifications' I am repeatedly advertised to. It's still ads even if it's for Apple's products.
Show threadrmogullFeb 3, 2023

@estranged i don’t see those since I already subscribe but I agree that, at most, they should prompt you once.

But the MS stuff is more like “let us track all your activity and web browsing to improve your experience “

Show threadFeed Me DoughnutsFeb 3, 2023
@estranged apple pushed 8 times in a month for me to sub to their services. It’s getting annoying yeah.
Show threadFreediverXFeb 3, 2023
@rmogull
Sorry but Microsoft has always been an inherently evil company and that culture persists no matter what friendly public face they may be presenting at times.