Having been on Macs for the past 20 years I was totally unprepared for all the dark patterns I had to navigate setting up a new Windows system.

Constant ads and pushes for additional products. Extensive privacy-violating monitoring defaults. Everything disguised to be for my benefit, but clearly it’s to benefit Microsoft.

MS is actually great at a lot of things. This demeans them.

@rmogull iOS is slowly sliding in this direction. I don't subscribe to Apple Music or Apple TV, and no matter how many times I decline or dismiss the 'notifications' I am repeatedly advertised to. It's still ads even if it's for Apple's products.
@estranged apple pushed 8 times in a month for me to sub to their services. It’s getting annoying yeah.