Paul Haddad 
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
Jan 25, 2023 at 2:20amWeb
Show threaddaniel s.Jan 25, 2023
@paul the ssd write speeds are supposedly worse if that's any disincentive
Show threadVincent 🌻🇪🇺 en 🌹☘️Jan 25, 2023
@selfagency Only on the 256GB base model
Show threadCasperJan 25, 2023
@paul isn’t the m1 Ultra faster?
Show threadJ.I. VicuñaJan 25, 2023
@paul More than fast enough for anything you can throw at it!
(Says this while making a Keynote document loaded with videos on a base-model M1 Mac mini)
Show threadZperrettaJan 25, 2023
@javicuna @paul I love your profile pic
Show threadChris Alemany 🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 🌱Jan 25, 2023
@paul lies. You do.
Show threadsayrerJan 25, 2023
@paul no SD card slot
Show threadScottJan 25, 2023
@paul but you have all that money coming in now!
Show threadAllen FinchumJan 25, 2023
@paul please just send me the Studio and purchase away - haha
Show threadtoo many namesJan 25, 2023
@paul (you should totally get one)
Show thread💐 🏖 🌺 𝕂𝕚𝕂𝕚Jan 25, 2023
@paul you’d lose all of those lovely accessible front ports… and the SD Card reader. 🤷‍♂️
Show threadAndrew LaurenceJan 25, 2023
@paul yes you do, no it’s not
Show threadRobert George 𓇳𓃀𓁹𓏏𓇥𓆓𓀀Jan 25, 2023
@paul the memory on the m2 pro is 1/4 of the speed of the m1 ultra studio
Show threadDreamwinderJan 25, 2023
@paul
Show threadalanJan 25, 2023
@paul LOL
Show threadpierreJan 25, 2023
@paul can I have your M1 ultra if you get an M2 pro mini?
Show threadQuinn NelsonJan 25, 2023
@paul The M1 Ultra is much faster.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@snazzyq I'm not so sure, Xcode isn't all that great at parallelizing across 20 cores, specially for the very frequent small incremental builds I do.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@paul @snazzyq For many developers, I suspect 96 GB of RAM and M2 Max core count might win out.
Show threadSean HardingJan 25, 2023
@gruber @paul @snazzyq More RAM is the only thing I wish for right now (because I stupidly went with M1 Pro, not caring about more GPU, and underestimating how annoying the 32GB RAM cap would end up being).
Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@gruber @snazzyq I thought the CPU core count was the same for the Mini Pro vs Max MBPs? But yeah 32GB is a big limiting factor. I still would like to test one out to see how it compares, though probably will wait it out until the M3 Ultra comes out.
Show threadJoefrey Kibuule, MDJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @snazzyq There are 2 versions of a Pro chip and 2 versions of a Max chip in the M2 generation. Both vary in CPU and GPU cores.
Show threaddxzdbJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @snazzyq wonder if Mac Stadium has the new ones yet?
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@paul @snazzyq You’re right, I’m wrong. And I’m showing my hand that I’ve spent more time thinking about the MBPs.
Show threadSloan StudioJan 25, 2023
@gruber @paul @snazzyq There are 2 M2 Pro configs. 10 CPU 16 GPU or the 12 CPU 19 GPU core which is confusing me constantly. Max has same 12 CPU count but starts at 30 GPU.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@gruber @paul @snazzyq Agreed. Apple really needs to update that Mac Studio with M2s if it wants that product to remain competitive (both models of it).
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq Last year the Studio arrived 3-4 months after the M1 Pro/Max MBPs. So I expect the M2 Studio and Mac Pro in 3-4 months. Maybe April, otherwise at WWDC in June. Apple is a company of patterns.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq I just hope they don't Mac Pro it, and just release it every several cycles. I do like the Minis but the Studio really is the perfect machine for me.
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq last I checked, there were no other M2 products in the pipeline (beyond the headset and Mac Pro), and we were going straight to M3 with the iMac. Who knows how things have changed with the supply chain since then, though. I get the feeling the whole M2 lineup was delayed by six-ish months
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@stroughtonsmith @paul @gruber @snazzyq Yeah, I haven’t heard anything about a Mac Studio refresh from anyone, which is what concerns me. Maybe they’ll just go straight to M3 for Mac Studio, who knows.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@EshuMarneedi @stroughtonsmith @paul @snazzyq Nah, surely it’s coming by WWDC. Bet on it.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@gruber @stroughtonsmith @paul @snazzyq If anything I think October. Mac Pro would ship then too.
Show threadBrent CaswellJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq seems like the beauty of M series chips is that they have so much shared architecture and can do plug-and-play replacements for a couple of years in a row. So I would hope they don’t (Intel) Mac Pro it.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq Same. I’m hoping iMac is the only one not on an annual-ish schedule. (And it’s be nice if it were. But I understand why it’s not a priority.)
Show threadDavid NelsonJan 25, 2023
@gruber I wonder if the state of the iMac is temporary fallout from COVID. It seems plausible that they had to set priorities, and decided they could meet the needs of the most customers by focusing on the mini and studio for now. @paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq
Show threadDavid SteinJan 25, 2023
@dmnelson @gruber @paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq The internal goal has to be all of an M-generation’s variants being released at roughly the same time, right? I can’t imagine marketing is happy about some products (especially high end ones like the Studio) being on the Mn-1 generation. That may never be feasible for technical and/or development reasons, but it’s the cleanest story.
Show threadAli MomenJan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq If there's no M2 Extrems aka 2x Ultras, they'll likely save the M2 Ultra specifically for the Mac Pro to make it seem more valuable.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@alimomen @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq Nah. Mac Studio will be like last year’s lineup and Mac Pro will be a new tier above that.
Show threadAli MomenJan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq if both the new Studio and the Pro have the same processor, it will be interesting to see how Apple positions the Pro and what else it will have.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@alimomen @gruber @paul @snazzyq Pro would have interchangeable RAM, PCIe slots, upgradable storage, more, expandable ports, etc. I think that’s worth an extra $1000 over the Ultra Studio.
Show threadAli MomenJan 26, 2023
@EshuMarneedi @gruber @paul @snazzyq Gurman just reported no upgradeable RAM, no upgradeable GPU, just storage. Making my theory that the Studio getting the same processor as the Pro makes no sense.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 26, 2023
@alimomen @gruber @paul @snazzyq That’s dumb. In that case, they should just kill the Pro.
Show threadChristina WarrenJan 25, 2023
@gruber @paul @snazzyq bingo. The new Mac mini missed the cutoff for @jsnell’s annual report card so I couldn’t go on my rant about the confusion now between the two products. But yeah, for many, the 96GB M2 Max will be ideal.
Show threadSteven Op de beeckJan 25, 2023
@film_girl @gruber @paul @snazzyq @jsnell 😥that’s €1400 more for the privilege of 64GBs more memory (most devs don’t need the GPU cores) — too bad the ceiling of the M2Pro is 32GB, but it’ll have to do for most of us devs I fear.
Show threadHJan 25, 2023
@paul @snazzyq Quinn uses his m1 ultra to send snarky toots online
Show threadBrian StuckiJan 25, 2023
@paul @snazzyq the M2 interest from our customers has been massive. (Much more than 2018 Intel or M1 when they were released.) I imagine the Studio interest will be pretty limited from here on out. (Totally fine with us. 48 per rack vs 96 for minis.) Also, put me in the “you need one” camp…
Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@stucki @snazzyq I just hope it doesn't kill off the Studio.
Show threadDorwrath 🎮Jan 25, 2023
@paul good, buy it for me instead 😜
Show threadPatrick MayoJan 25, 2023
@paul uh huh. Whatever helps you sleep at night. 🤣
Show threadSeanJan 25, 2023
@paul I’ve already ordered mine.
Show thread李边请Jan 25, 2023
@paul yes, just wait M3 or M2 Ultra
Show threadRyan Poirier (@rgpphotog)Jan 25, 2023

@paul Max Studio M2 Ultra is the one to wait for.

But the m1 ultra is pretty dope

Show threadThis is HellJan 25, 2023
@paul This is true. But it’s awfully tempting!
Show threadJoshua OJan 25, 2023
@paul but then is my M1 Max Studio enough?
Show threadBrian MinorJan 25, 2023
@paul I have the M1 Max MacBook Pro and I’ve been telling myself the same thing. Apple is just too good with their marketing.
Show threadStuart GibsonJan 25, 2023
@paul you deserve it for shipping 🚢
Show threadBrennan StehlingJan 25, 2023
@paul But it’s a short boy!
Show threadSam BurkhardJan 25, 2023
@paul build server? Love the idea of a very powerful Mac with a low TDP sitting in a closet somewhere 👀
Show threadThoreJan 25, 2023

@paul
Your M1 Ultra Studio is fast enough!

But you need a server with media engine!

Show threadChrisJan 25, 2023
@paul Dude…I am soo hovering over the buy button.