Paul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
I do not need an M2 Pro mini, my M1 Ultra studio is fast enough.
Show threadQuinn NelsonJan 25, 2023
@paul The M1 Ultra is much faster.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@snazzyq I'm not so sure, Xcode isn't all that great at parallelizing across 20 cores, specially for the very frequent small incremental builds I do.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@paul @snazzyq For many developers, I suspect 96 GB of RAM and M2 Max core count might win out.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@gruber @paul @snazzyq Agreed. Apple really needs to update that Mac Studio with M2s if it wants that product to remain competitive (both models of it).
Show threadJohn Gruber
@EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq Last year the Studio arrived 3-4 months after the M1 Pro/Max MBPs. So I expect the M2 Studio and Mac Pro in 3-4 months. Maybe April, otherwise at WWDC in June. Apple is a company of patterns.
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Show threadPaul Haddad Jan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq I just hope they don't Mac Pro it, and just release it every several cycles. I do like the Minis but the Studio really is the perfect machine for me.
Show threadSteve Troughton-SmithJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq last I checked, there were no other M2 products in the pipeline (beyond the headset and Mac Pro), and we were going straight to M3 with the iMac. Who knows how things have changed with the supply chain since then, though. I get the feeling the whole M2 lineup was delayed by six-ish months
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@stroughtonsmith @paul @gruber @snazzyq Yeah, I haven’t heard anything about a Mac Studio refresh from anyone, which is what concerns me. Maybe they’ll just go straight to M3 for Mac Studio, who knows.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@EshuMarneedi @stroughtonsmith @paul @snazzyq Nah, surely it’s coming by WWDC. Bet on it.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@gruber @stroughtonsmith @paul @snazzyq If anything I think October. Mac Pro would ship then too.
Show threadBrent CaswellJan 25, 2023
@paul @gruber @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq seems like the beauty of M series chips is that they have so much shared architecture and can do plug-and-play replacements for a couple of years in a row. So I would hope they don’t (Intel) Mac Pro it.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq Same. I’m hoping iMac is the only one not on an annual-ish schedule. (And it’s be nice if it were. But I understand why it’s not a priority.)
Show threadDavid NelsonJan 25, 2023
@gruber I wonder if the state of the iMac is temporary fallout from COVID. It seems plausible that they had to set priorities, and decided they could meet the needs of the most customers by focusing on the mini and studio for now. @paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq
Show threadDavid SteinJan 25, 2023
@dmnelson @gruber @paul @EshuMarneedi @snazzyq The internal goal has to be all of an M-generation’s variants being released at roughly the same time, right? I can’t imagine marketing is happy about some products (especially high end ones like the Studio) being on the Mn-1 generation. That may never be feasible for technical and/or development reasons, but it’s the cleanest story.
Show threadAli MomenJan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq If there's no M2 Extrems aka 2x Ultras, they'll likely save the M2 Ultra specifically for the Mac Pro to make it seem more valuable.
Show threadJohn GruberJan 25, 2023
@alimomen @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq Nah. Mac Studio will be like last year’s lineup and Mac Pro will be a new tier above that.
Show threadAli MomenJan 25, 2023
@gruber @EshuMarneedi @paul @snazzyq if both the new Studio and the Pro have the same processor, it will be interesting to see how Apple positions the Pro and what else it will have.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 25, 2023
@alimomen @gruber @paul @snazzyq Pro would have interchangeable RAM, PCIe slots, upgradable storage, more, expandable ports, etc. I think that’s worth an extra $1000 over the Ultra Studio.
Show threadAli MomenJan 26, 2023
@EshuMarneedi @gruber @paul @snazzyq Gurman just reported no upgradeable RAM, no upgradeable GPU, just storage. Making my theory that the Studio getting the same processor as the Pro makes no sense.
Show threadEshu MarneediJan 26, 2023
@alimomen @gruber @paul @snazzyq That’s dumb. In that case, they should just kill the Pro.