Tierney Cyren
Meredith WhittakerHow it started how it's going
LisaBanana ⏚@Mer__edith isn't it what happened to a lot of professional translators not so long ago ? One of my friend is a translator from Japanese to French and a part of her job now is re-read and correct automatic translation and, most of the time rewrite it from the beginning... (It takes more time and as she starts to have more "real" translations jobs, she, sometimes refuses this kind of tasks that are not well payed and really annoying...)
Hippo 🍉@LisaBanana @Mer__edith this reminds me of the old WYSIWYG HTML editors that automatically generate HTML code for you. The code was so badly written that I gave up and went back to coding everything by hand.
Of course, now you have full-fledged drag 'n' drop website builders whose generated code is even worse...
Kyozou
Ariaflame@LisaBanana @Mer__edith She should definitely refuse or charge more for such tasks because as I understand it they are more difficult than doing the translation themselves..
@ariaflame @Mer__edith when she began her activity it wasn't easy to refuse jobs, but now she can allow her to do it more often as she have enough more interesting propositions. But she also knows that those jobs ends up on the desk of a new junior translator who will probably be disgusted by the job because of it...
trish@Mer__edith ... and this fake-genuin content is going to provide new learning material for the "A.I.". When will the resulting self-referential system eventually blow up?
@trish @Mer__edith ooh! There's light at the end of the tunnel! 🔦
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Kevin Karhan 
@Mer__edith I'd tell that client to f**k off and charge them double the rate for being an asshole.
Cassandrich@kkarhan @Mer__edith I doubt someone who writes SEO garbage filler content has a price.
Oblomov@kkarhan @Mer__edith even without considering the asshole aspect, correcting something created by a LLM will typically require more effort specifically because of how subtle the mistakes can be. I'd charge even more than double.
Antti Peltola ⁂@Mer__edith
Seems like we're heading for angry 2020s. Buckle up, folks.
Seems like we're heading for angry 2020s. Buckle up, folks.
Kartik Agaram@Mer__edith One strategically important thing in the future will be owning the relationship with the AI. If you don't own it, you'll be a babysitter. If you do own it, you'll be an augmented intelligence.
@akkartik Yeah and right now only a handful of large corporations are in a position to "own" said relationship (i.e. the infra x data required to develop and maintain these systems). So we don't/won't have a "choice" unless this structure is significantly perturbed
barefootliam@Mer__edith @akkartik ownership doesn't have to be literal. It's about theatre. It's about the perception of the clients. They need an "AI Text Shaper" with the "necessariy knowledge and skills" right?
Max Riethmuller (TechLife)@Mer__edith @akkartik true, in the sense the average worker doesn't own the means of production. But just like manufacturing technology led to advances in machinery, smaller and smaller productions houses have arisen, even Mum and Pop enterprises, and the same thing will happen with AI.
Jan@akkartik @Mer__edith The training of such huge language models costs millions in compute power and will be owned by the corp. Of course the training data is for free on the internet.
kravietz 🦇
Dr. Juande Santander-Vela@Mer__edith @ianbetteridge very sad indeed…
SaftyKumaSo basically his client is basically using the threat of AI to try to significantly lower the pay for the same work.
Ben Evans@Mer__edith In case you haven't already seen it: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/13/becoming-a-chatbot-my-life-as-a-real-estate-ais-human-backup
Thomas Dickerson@kittylyst @Mer__edith A few weeks ago I gave ChatGPT a prompt that was basically "how would you tell me if you were actually a human operator being held captive somewhere and needed help" and it just carried the conversation on normally and I couldn't figure out if that was reassuring or concerning.
enmodo ⚛️ 🧬 🇺🇦 🍉@Mer__edith and how about fixing the errors in the generated content that he and site visitors will probably never notice? IMO that's the real deep problem with this content deep fakery.
I'm sure there are many that will not care about errors. Imagine how Fox News etc. could just use this to write their news stories - as if they care about a few errors. Let the viewers or lawyers notice them later, sometimes, whenever, when-NEVER. Issue a retraction on the back page. Job done.
brocolie (tots not a vampire)@Mer__edith AI will not replace you. You won't be replaced by a single person babysitting AI either.
You'll be replaced by an app turning AI babysitting into a surge-priced and fenced gig economy, and its desperate people trying to make ends meet by working for the app, when in fact most of them are actually losing money and falling further down in debt until there's yet another economical crisis.
All that while the billionaire who stole data to build the AI and their manager cohorts profit.
The Spoonless Kitchen@brocolie @Mer__edith This is the correct answer.
Skylar Caulfield 
I feel like if we are gonna reach the point of AI taking over high paying jobs the only real solution is to abolish capitalism otherwise the system crashes and perhaps falls into fascism. The main reason is that captialism would fall apart since the only jobs available to people who are not millionaires and min wage jobs, or high wage dangerous jobs like underwater welding. This will lead to a massive decrease in profits for millionaires since no one can afford to buy their shit.
@Mer__edith I feel like at this point people would have some sort of uprising. I think AI is an okay idea if done correctly. Under communism it would handle all the boring work while we do cool stuff and creative works
@skymtf @Mer__edith bring on the luxury space communism!
@techlife @Mer__edith Don't you mean luxury gay space communism where everyone is in one big polycue
@skymtf @Mer__edith well I'm not gay, I just like the concept of luxury communism in space. It can be gay if it wants as long as het guys like me are still welcome 🙂
teledyn 𓂀#SunRa told us, "If what you do CAN be done by machines, it is time to start looking for another line of work."
As a musician, I feel your pain. We foolishly pivoted to peddling bits of plastic, then batches of bits, and suddenly a centuries-old traditional vocation of 7x18 work weeks was down to two $100 evenings in some pub. John Philip Sousa himself tried to ban the Edison device, but it did no good.
Einstein: a mouse would never invent a mousetrap.
Developers: hold my beer…
Nick Gerakines@Mer__edith Thanks, I hate it.
Simon Brooke@OCRbot sigh. You know what I'm going to ask, don't you?
Wraithe @ PAX EAST@Mer__edith
what’s the old sign that a lot of car mechanics have up?
REPAIR LABBOR RATE: $100/hr
IF YOU TRIED TO FIX IT FIRST: $200/hr
I don’t know why that popped into my head, no reason at all.
David@Mer__edith I just wrote about this very thing on my blog,
https://davidjhughes.ca/words/nonfiction/artist-ficial-intelligence/
https://davidjhughes.ca/words/nonfiction/artist-ficial-intelligence/
Artist-ficial Intelligence
Imagine a world where people were only working hard enough to ensure that they and the others in their society had their survival needs met. Enough food and shelter to ensure that no one would die of starvation or exposure. A world where no one would be expected to put in overtime scurrying around t
Doug Knisely@Mer__edith Funny that's Google's (AI-driven!) downrating of links (for its AI-based search results) that it assesses to be AI-generated will be the primary limiter to AI abuse?
FeralRobots@Mer__edith
i follow Jason & missed this, shows how much less I'm on birdsite.
i follow Jason & missed this, shows how much less I'm on birdsite.
ZZ Bottom@Mer__edith Terrible.
Going T. Maine@Mer__edith Terrifying. Terrifying.
Artemis@Mer__edith and that's the real endpoint of all of this, isn't it :/
ashley@Mer__edith @KevinMarks ah, ai replacing you with yourself, but for less money
Rep Rap Ryn :3@Mer__edith turns out babysitting AI is harder and costs more than having a human do it.
Only benefit is format scut work for source code.
Pamela Ehn@reprapryn @Mer__edith hmm… when outsourcing became a huge thing, it created my job because while Indian typesetters are cheaper than American ones, they do a shittier job and then i get hired to fix it.
@cadenza @Mer__edith same but for setting up a warehouse and plumbing it into an e-commerce system for me.
Unsexy, unnoticed, sometimes hard to find jobs for, but very lucrative.
Tuxicomanfor sure, this where companies think the benefit is. Employees supervising AI, like they used to supervise software & hardware.
Leonardo Ferreira Fontenelle@Mer__edith next step, tortured phrases? 😂
‘Tortured phrases’, lost in translation: Sleuths find even more problems at journal that just flagged 400 papers
Guillaume Cabanac What do subterranean insect provinces and motion to clamor have to do with microprocessors and microsystems? That’s an excellent question. Read on, dear reader.
dbread
Stormcrow@Mer__edith Serfin USA
Bernd Petrovitsch🔴🔴🔴♂️🏳️🌈🇦🇹🇪🇺@Mer__edith "Rewriting and correcting texts of others cost 50% more."
blterrible@Mer__edith AI had destroyed the whalebone hoop-skirt industry!
Daniel Probst
Bernie Luckily Does It@Mer__edith Why not simply get a different AI to rewrite it and pay someone a fraction of a fraction of their usual rate to rewrite the rewrite?
hammancheez@Mer__edith AI is doing to white collar what mechanical/robotic automation did to blue collar
maybe once chatgpt4 can file legal briefs lawyers will finally get on our side and start considering human-first labor regulations
Efficiency on the backs of living wages for humans is just indentured service with extra steps
Dave MacDonald (admin)@Mer__edith @gpt will AI replace people or will people with AI replace people who don't have access to AI.
Should everyone have access?
We need to rethink how technology is distributed and what access people have to it. Access to AI should be seen as a basic human right, as it has profound implications for how we will interact with technology in the future. Everyone should have access to the tools and education that AI provides.
same erica, different hood@Mer__edith The perfect "shot...chaser."
Jordi Rosell@Mer__edith so, one client is replacing first writing outsourcing for himself using AI. Isn't it?
PJ "Vote Green" CoffeyThere's no search function here. Y'all need #. (and alt-text)
#AI #AIJobs #AIWriting #ChatGPT #EthicsInAI #TechBro #AIDetection #AIBabysitter
costrike@Mer__edith It gets worse from here.