Peter Faur
Chris TrottierOn Mastodon, there's two groups of people:
1. Those who want to recreate Twitter
2. Those who want to bury Twitter, then pave over its grave
I'm of the second group.
Let me go further: my problem with Twitter isn't Elon Musk.
Elon Musk is just taking Twitter to its logical conclusion.
No, my problem with Twitter is that it's centralized social media that funds itself through surveillance capitalism.
And THAT is why Twitter needs to be dead and buried.
And Twitter isn't alone in my contempt.
The following social media needs to be dead and buried too:
* Facebook
* WhatsApp
* Instagram
* TikTok
* YouTube
All of them are awful.
All of them need to die.
Marcia Darling@atomicpoet YouTube was good before it was bought out and algorithmed to hell
WTF@AuntyChrist @atomicpoet Really? You can still search for songs etc. Algorithms have brought me many things I haven’t heard.
calc.exe@atomicpoet I couldn't have said it better myself 👏
Jonathan@atomicpoet Group 3: Twitter Who?
Dave Winer ☕️i'm in neither group. I think Mastodon is useful and interesting, but it isn't Twitter.
I'm also hanging in there for Twitter, it's too valuable to let it go without some kind of effort to preserve what it is.
@davew I used to be a big believer in Twitter. I even helped build the #1 3rd party Twitter app. In fact, Twitter has benefited me materially in many ways.
However, after witnessing the ugly side of Twitter last March—specifically, how it can be used to harass people with inconvenient narratives—I resolved to work towards its demise.
As far as I'm concerned, the only benefit of Twitter is as an archive of past data. But even that has problems.
JucaI don't have any hope for Twitter as long as Elon owns it.
Doc Sigma@atomicpoet I would say “pave paradise, put up a parking lot”, but that would imply twitter was a paradise
badboyntxTalking Heads, "nothing but flowers"?
Jono Ferguson@atomicpoet I wanted a better Twitter when i first got here, having been here a little while, I'm after a better understanding of the fediverse.
Dream A Little 
@atomicpoet I just like social media that's not owned by a person or company! I wasn't really on Twitter much. But I'm still on Facebook. I just hate that rich people get richer from social media. I prefer when it's owned by it's users.
David Brent 📚@Cynthia @atomicpoet I took a "break" from #Facebook back in November 2021. Still on that break. Not sure the break will ever end, and I'm totally ok with that. It's better for my #MentalHealth and I feel like (maybe) I have a (slightly) better handle on who has access to my data.
It's Just Jenn 🏳️⚧️@atomicpoet I want some what Twitter provided in the way of community but without the self-importance and clout chasing. In the hopefully better world to come of social media you'll log onto different sites for different reasons. Like it used to be.
sub_o@atomicpoet pave? You mean pee?
Overwhelmedhippie
Sir Dr Rusty o the Isle 🖤💛❤️@atomicpoet yes to the second strategy
@atomicpoet I'm in the 2nd group. As long as the bird site is owned by a spoiled billionaire who has the emotional maturity of a 10 year-old boy and the morality of spittle, it's not trustworthy. The sooner decent truth givers and truth seekers leave the better.
@viccimn I'll go further: if it can be owned, it's not trustworthy.
TomJust imagine the #Internet would 'belong' to someone....
With this in mind, I think it is pretty obvious that decentralized, #federated systems are stronger, fairer and more sustainable than #centralized dictatorships...
Frédéric D'Astous@atomicpoet Group 2 ... but still thinking about all those ppl and groups who had support on the other side.
@fdastous Give it time.
Maria Petriello
#covidisairborne 🇨🇦@atomicpoet when I have to start paying $8 or $10@ month to have my tweets read, I’m out.
MyMiloCat+MydogNoodles
Sir Rochard 'Dock' Bunson
Leslie 🇺🇸🌻🌈 🌊@atomicpoet I completely appreciate the polite discourse on mastodon. I just haven't figured out how to get much engagement, something twitter was VERY good at -except for all the people whining about no one seeing their tweets 😉
@Lesliesez @atomicpoet #HashTags are your friends. Use them liberally when you post, and eventually you'll find your people... or they'll find you! 😉
Matt 😈
elShoggotho@atomicpoet I'm just here for the promise of overlapping social media with severe differences. Give me ActivityPub enabled Tumblr feeds to enhance my Mastodon experience!
Go Outside@atomicpoet I'll help you pave!
Stone Bear 
@atomicpoet
3. Dust off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
3. Dust off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
@atomicpoet You're forgetting a 3rd group who aren't on Mastodon either, though you see our posts. We're from somewhere else in the Fediverse.
Ms. Penny Oaken@atomicpoet Friends, Romans, Mastodonians …
HillyBlueWave@atomicpoet
2nd - Mastodon is definitely going to play a bigger part in social media from now on.
2nd - Mastodon is definitely going to play a bigger part in social media from now on.
@atomicpoet I guess I represent a third group
I really do not care about Twitter, one way or the other. I never cared for Twitter, although I did use it at one time as part of my job. I have been on Mastodon since the early days here because I like the people I meet and the interesting conversations I can become part of. The Twitter influx has brought many interesting new people here.
I really do not care about Twitter, one way or the other. I never cared for Twitter, although I did use it at one time as part of my job. I have been on Mastodon since the early days here because I like the people I meet and the interesting conversations I can become part of. The Twitter influx has brought many interesting new people here.
Lee 🌏
IAmPaws@atomicpoet 2nd group.
Giraffe Slava 🇺🇸🇺🇦@atomicpoet I want to do both.
progressiveartist@atomicpoet
As am I, Chris. I've remained silent thru the debates & outright arguments re:QTs, but I unequivocally believe it's truly crass & unproductive to come here, where people have been & are working so hard, many at their own expense, & start demanding changes.
I personally have no problems with how this platform runs, and have been happy to just settle in, look around, listen & learn. It operates similarly enough to be easy to use. I've no complaints, or need for it to be twitter.
ceoln@atomicpoet
Eh. And those who are happy to forget it, except as an occasional source of some remembered lessons in things to do and not do.
Eh. And those who are happy to forget it, except as an occasional source of some remembered lessons in things to do and not do.
Kyote@atomicpoet Team 2😤
Sean Macツ@atomicpoet
I was a beta tester of Twitter back when it launched. Mastodon and early Twitter have a lot of similarities. I dont think the problem is the technology. The problem is the people. Once Mastodon attracts a certain number of human beings, it will become the new Twitter. Its just a matter of time.
I was a beta tester of Twitter back when it launched. Mastodon and early Twitter have a lot of similarities. I dont think the problem is the technology. The problem is the people. Once Mastodon attracts a certain number of human beings, it will become the new Twitter. Its just a matter of time.
@seanm4c Or, another possibility: as Mastodon grows, it splinters into tiny communities that DON'T scale into one giant userbase.
In fact, that's already happening.
@atomicpoet
I am actually hopeful for that Chris! I hope the decentralized nature of Mastodon will help. that is why, for now, I am all in! 🙏
But we'll see once Jane and John Doe come up in here and start sharing anti-vax memes, lol. 🤷♂️
I am actually hopeful for that Chris! I hope the decentralized nature of Mastodon will help. that is why, for now, I am all in! 🙏
But we'll see once Jane and John Doe come up in here and start sharing anti-vax memes, lol. 🤷♂️
@seanm4c Those communities exist. We just don't see them right now.
It is entirely possible that there will be a proxy arms race to disrupt de-federation. We'll see.
Anathema Device
Steve Laskevitch@atomicpoet group 3 or 4: just loving this for what it is.
TransitBiker@atomicpoet second group.
Alex@atomicpoet gee, you're right. We shouldn't want anything like Twitter. I'm gonna go outside and play with sticks and rocks.
writeblankspace@atomicpoet I'm more number 2, but not as spiteful. Didn't really go on Twitter much, and really all I like here is the peacefulness. So I'm in group 3: Those who just like Mastodon and don't care about Twitter
Layne Democracy Matters@atomicpoet
I second that 😉
I second that 😉
tiina sarlin 🐘@atomicpoet what twitter?
Reselsnark@atomicpoet except making everything into a false binary is exactly what happens on Twitter. So you really are part of group 1.
Tim Erickson, @stpaultim@reselsnark @atomicpoet I am willing to wager that most people on Mastodon would not want to associate themselves with either of these positions.
Making deliberately provocative posts to get engagement is very Twitterish behavior. It worked, I replied. Is that a technological problem or a people problem?
@stpaultim @reselsnark @atomicpoet
Even over there I would have preferred 100 followers with > 50% engagement, rather than 1m followers and nary a reponse, just "likes".
I tried offering discussion points, usually to crickets.
I never deigned to use "who thinks popular idea of the day" posts.
So... i say it's a people problem.
Don't follow me if you're never going to engage beyond an agreement button.