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I spent a few days with the in-laws for Christmas and in my down time did a deep, dark dive into #QElon’s ideology and motivations.
The shortest version I’ve come up with so far is that he’s in a billionaire eugenicist, transhumanist, white supremacist, anarcho-communist, Russian Cosmist science-fiction cult.
Unfortunately I’m dead serious about this.
This also offers a partial explanation for why he is a literal Kremlin propagandist. He and Putin are deeply aligned.
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In 2018, Elon Musk dropped by a SXSW panel and made a reference to Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, a Russian scientist who helped pioneer the Russian cosmonautics program. Tsiolkovsky was also a founding member of Russian Cosmism, who believed that humanity’s primary goal should be immortality and “interplanetarism.”
Tsiolkovsky also believed the only way to achieve this goal was widespread eugenics programs.
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#QElon constantly says how much he’s inspired by Tsiolkovsky and rocket scientist Sergei Korolev who was inspired by Tsiolkovsky as well.
This has been looked on very favorably by Russian state media and Vladimir Putin.
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Tsiolkovsky was deeply Russian Orthodox, to the point of being ascetic, and he was a Soviet who supported the Bolshevik Revolution.
The Bolsheviks were co-founded by Alexander Bogdanov, who became a rival of Lenin in the party. Bogdanov is thought by many to be the inspiration for the technocracy movement. And the Soviet Union itself has been referred to as a technocracy.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement
Bogdanov was also a science fiction writer who wrote a book about how a socialist technocratic government would take over Mars in case that sounds familiar.
And, he was an early promoter of blood transfusions as a fountain of youth. Until he died from one in 1928.
Another person very interested in this subject is Peter Fucking Thiel. #PFT
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/peter-thiel-wants-to-inject-himself-with-young-peoples-blood
The “Technocracy movement” was started by Howard Scott in 1936. It had hundreds of thousands of members in the United States and Canada.
One of the leaders of the movement in Canada was Joshua Haldeman, who was arrested on charges for it in 1940. Joshua Haldeman is Elon Musk’s grandfather.
In 2019, Elon Musk tweeted “accelerating Starship development to build the Martian Technocracy.”
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https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/technocracy-incorporated-elon-musk
It should be noted that the central feature of technocracy, as defined by “Technocracy Incorporated” is the elimination of the “price system,” ie. money.
Of course, Elon Musk has been trying to disrupt the financial system for his entire career, including PayPal and his many adventures in pushing cryptocurrency scams.
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#QElon’s grandpa Joshua Haldeman, former leader of the Technocracy movement, got fed up with Canada’s “moral failures” by 1950, and moved his family to South Africa, two years after the racist, oppressive regime of Apartheid (literally, “apart-hood”) started.
The government of South Africa had been advertising it as a “whites-only paradise.” Joshua Haldeman’s daughter Maye, gave birth to Elon in Pretoria in 1971.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-south-africa.html
Around the same time that Musk declared his admiration for Tsiolkovsky in 2018, Musk tweeted this: “If you must know, I am a utopian anarchist of the kind best described by Iain Banks.”
While this may seem wildly out of left field, it actually makes a sick kind of sense.
Iain M. Banks was an avowed socialist, who despised people like Elon Musk, and wrote a series of books about an anarcho-communist space-faring society called “The Culture.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture
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Iain M. Banks’s society, The Culture, who Elon Musk identifies with, like a technocracy, has no concept of money. It also has no laws, relying on a mostly harmonious relationship between humans, AIs and “drones” to keep order.
It is also a major literary example of transhumanism, because anyone in The Culture can modify themselves to be almost anything they want, including glands that produce mind-altering drugs and butterfly wings.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
Transhumanism is a major feature of Russian Cosmism, as it calls for a “perfection” of the human race in order to bring about the holy grail of immortality.
Of course the most aggressive transhumanist of all is none other than Elon Musk who wants to implant chips in human brains in the next six months. The term “neural lace” that he uses comes from Iain M. Banks.
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https://fortune.com/2022/12/06/elon-musk-neuralink-staff-claim-rushed-brain-implant-trials-led-to-needless-deaths-1500-animals/
The race for immortality, of course, has burned a lot of Silicon Valley capital, including that of Elon Musk’s “pay pal” Peter Thiel. The Russian Cosmists turned it into a quasi-religion. And so did Silicon Valley, who started “The Church of Perpetual Life” that counts the founder of Russian Cosmism, Nikolai Fyorodov, as a “prophet.”
That’s why Elon Musk is desperately trying to distance himself from the “Western” version of transhumanism by validating 9/11-truther Luke Rudkowski.
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The ugly truth of Elon Musk’s transhumanist goals is that he is not making technology for everyone. He does not care about humans on here on Earth, because he has adopted the idea that the only thing that matters is the long term, which is destined to be “multi-planetary.”
That’s why he actively promotes “longtermism” which was proposed by William MacAskill in his book “What We Owe The Future.”
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https://jimstewartson.substack.com/p/longtermism-the-stupid-idea-with
Longtermism is an incredibly naive idea that has been weaponized by people to do things like deny that climate science is trustworthy. It creates a rationale for all sorts of bad ideas.
For example, MacAskill believes we’ll be just fine if the earth heats up TEN degrees — which is obviously false and dangerous. He just thinks he knows better than scientists and lied about their approval.
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https://thebulletin.org/2022/11/what-longtermism-gets-wrong-about-climate-change/#post-heading
Turns out that MacAskill was also a mentor and ultimately business partners with Sam Bankman-Fried who said that he was getting super rich so that he could redistribute his money to projects that he believed would be good for everyone else.
In other words, he defrauded people of their money because he thought he could spend it better than them.
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfree/2022/dec/04/longtermism-rich-effective-altruism-tech-dangerous
Longtermism also inevitably leads to eugenics, which is a dark theme of almost everything in this thread. If you believe the only thing that matters are the people in the future, isn’t it your duty to make them as “perfect” as possible? Doesn’t that mean you should cull the population of people who will sully the gene pool?
This is why Apartheid-born Elon Musk thinks his followers should have as many babies as possible, but is also terrified of any more brown people in the country.
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Elon Musk got instructions from Putin on these talking points because Musk doesn’t care about Ukraine or democracy. He’s perfectly willing to have millions suffer and die, as long as it doesn’t interfere with his plans to make humanity a “multi-planetary species.”
Like all abusive narcissists, he wants us to think it’s for our own good, and that he alone can fix it.
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https://jimstewartson.substack.com/p/qelons-war-on-empathy-will-lead-to
Anarcho-communism is based on the guiding principle “from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs” and rejects all forms of money and pricing.
This is the model for Iain Banks’s “The Culture” that Elon Musk says made him a “utopian anarchist.” This is a euphemism for anarcho-communism.
How is the former richest man a “communist?” Because, like his grandfather, he hates the money system and is trying to destroy it from the inside out. “For our own good.”
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Elon Musk’s ex-girlfriend Grimes made a confusing video about AI being a path to communism last year that no one I know of interpreted correctly. She’s talking about “The Culture” which is an AI-managed society where nobody has to work.
She was telling everyone what Elon Musk wants:
“Basically everything everybody loves about Communism, but without the collective farm.”
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https://gizmodo.com/grimes-says-ai-will-give-us-communism-in-confusing-new-1847022911
Grimes, the musician and romantic partner of billionaire Elon Musk, is a big believer in artificial intelligence, according to a new TikTok video she posted late Wednesday. What can AI do for humanity? Grimes insists that AI is a way to achieve Communism, something she says is good, while avoiding “collective…
“Svyatogor” was a proponent of “Biocosmism,” an anarchist, secular version of Russian Cosmism.
Despite his anarchism, he supported the Soviets who “cannot act purely as organs of struggle against oppression by nature; they must fulfill their function […] by assuming the form of a dictatorship (in a transitional phase, dictatorship is both necessary and expedient).”
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https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-svyatogor-the-doctrine-of-the-fathers-and-anarchism-biocosmism
This review of “Russian Cosmism” sums it up correctly:
“Scientists and writers like Tsiolkovsky, Bogdanov, and Svyatogor use the sheer power and materiality of fantasy and science fiction as a wedge to push humanity beyond the very brink of its capacities, risking — no, inviting — a collective change in humanity beyond all recognition.”
A transhumanist science-fiction cult.
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https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/russian-cosmism-versus-interstellar-bosses-reclaiming-full-throttle-luxury-space-communism/
The toxic stew of influences that drive Elon Musk must be understood to translate his actions.
His racism is deeply implanted from his upbringing in Apartheid with “filthy rich,” white supremacist parents.
His belief that a select few should run the world comes from his grandfather’s technocratic ideals.
Neuralink and SpaceX come from his Russian Cosmist, Banks-ian, utopian belief that humanity is destined to be a “multiplanetary” transhumanist species.
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hes born out of mid 2000s 4chan. ancap libertarian idiots that repeatedly bash into the failings of their ideologies so they tack on fanciful BS and conspiracies to tie it all together
eugenic techno facism imsosmart morons
@jimstewartson I'm begging you to look up what words mean before you say them. Elon Musk is not influenced by anarcho-communism at all and even the most basic understanding of the ideology would make this self evident.
Perhaps start with the question, what was the fundamental divide between Marxists and Anarchists?
Here's a hint, it's the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
It should have also been painfully obvious given Elon Musk's long history of union busting, given how deeply involved anarchists have been in union movements worldwide.
@ozwobbly I urge you to read the rest of my thread before you try and explain words to me. I understand what anarcho-communism is. Musk clearly cannot be labeled as solely an anarcho-communist, but he is heavily influenced by it. He says so himself.
If you want to debate semantics, that’s fine, but start with a little common respect.
@jimstewartson the problem is your citing a AI state socialist dictatorship on Mars as a type of anarchism.
I'd also point to the unanimous ridicule Grimes received from anarchists and Marxists for her "proposition for the communists" tic toc and the fact she has admitted she was trolling with her references to Marxism https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2021/10/grimes-the-communist-manifesto-karl-marx-photos-trolling-elon-musk-breakup
Your also failing to understand that Biocosmism is an explicit rejection of anarcho-communism in favour of an adoption the Marxist model of the DotP. It's said outright in the link you posted:
"The fact that the founding fathers were opposed to dictatorship meant that dictatorship was both unnecessary and harmful. The fact that they rejected any form of authority also meant that revolutionary power was automatically put on par with any other power. The anarchists, who adhered to their principles to the letter, rejected any measures taken by the Soviet regime. They opposed the revolutionary discipline of work, the organization of the village poor and the army, showing a complete lack of understanding of the aims of the Revolution."
"While we believe that the state will be eliminated on the way to Biocosmism, we would also emphasize the current need for a positive relationship with the Soviet system. The Soviet state should not be confused with the bourgeois state. The Soviets are a necessary organization within the revolutionary struggle against the old world. "
@ozwobbly If you believe this “trolling” bullshit, you need to familiarize yourself with the concepts of propaganda and normalization.
This was her letting her real conversations with Musk out of the bag when she was on drugs and then trying to cover it up.
I didn’t say Biocosmism was anarcho-communist per se, and I pointed out that Svagotor was in favor of the Soviet dictatorship. However, he was an anarchist and a communist who was disappeared by Stalin in 1937.
@jimstewartson A truly sad thing about all this is that it's now almost impossible to talk about a positive future in space without being lumped in with these fascists.
It is possible to have a long-term vision of the future for humanity while working to make all phases good for all humanity.
It's just being drowned out by Longtermists and Space Libertarians.
Aha….go fix your crashing company, leave the geopolitics to #PresidentBiden
#elonmusk is a Russian asset.
@jimstewartson I think all of this comes from him needing to sell trucks to republicans and being forced to buy twitter.
I bet he's upto his neck in chinese/Russian debt.
MOSCOW (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin says that whoever reaches a breakthrough in developing artificial intelligence will come to dominate the world. Putin, speaking Friday at a meeting with students, said the development of AI raises "colossal opportunities and threats that are difficult to predict now."
После падения СССР знаменитое просветительское общество «Знание» формально продолжало существовать, но практически никакой деятельности не вело и в 2016 году тихо самораспустилось. В то же время перезапуск «Знания» по стандартам цифровой эпохи — предмет живого интереса Владимира Путина. Он пытается сделать это с 2016 года и лично участвует в марафонах нового «Знания». Общество начали заваливать бюджетными миллиардами, генеральным директором назначили молодого стартапера Максима Древаля, а на его мероприятия приглашают самых известных спикеров, среди которых был и Илон Маск. Все это происходит на фоне активных попыток властей поставить под полный контроль государства всю сферу просвещения и за пределами стен школ и вузов — а обновленное «Знание» должно играть в этом процессе ключевую роль, говорят «Медузе» критики общества.
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