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Marco Arment@paul Option 4:
Ship what you have! Add features later.
It’s already both fantastic and desperately needed in the ecosystem.
Stick a $20/year IAP sub on it and ship it.
Jeremy Bell@marcoarment @paul I’ve spent less than 48 hours with it, and couldn’t agree more. It’s great. Ship it!
Andrew Briscoe@marcoarment Agree. I would prefer to be paying to support Tapbots.
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Brad Dielman 🇺🇦@marcoarment @paul $20/year seems more than reasonable for app as good as this.
Gen X-Wing@marcoarment @paul Fail fast! :)
Christian Selig@marcoarment Honestly agreed. Beside once or twice it not posting an image I attached to a toot it’s been stable as heck and I’d happily pay for it in a state far worse than this
@christianselig @marcoarment that bug is driving me nuts, AFAIK we’re not doing anything that could cause it but doesn’t seem to be wide spread with other clients (at least I haven’t heard it).
@paul @marcoarment Do you have logs around this kinda thing that I could send up? I’m assuming it’s being attached to the API request properly
@christianselig @marcoarment logs up the wazoo they all show everything is working as expected. The latest alpha from today has even more stuff in it.
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@paul @christianselig @marcoarment fwiw on the instance I’m using I’ve not seen this issue so far, and I’ve been posting images some. I’ll keep an eye out but all things being equal I’d presume it’s a server-getting-overloaded issue.
Khaos Tian@paul @christianselig maybe during debug period you can try adding a remote fetch after post to verify the photo is there, and show a prompt asking user to submit logs if the fetched status somehow dropped the images?
cameronbanga@paul @christianselig @marcoarment echo that I’ve seen this once or twice and happy to offer any data I can to help. But also, I would pay for this as it exists right now very easily.
It’s the best app in the market by far. Really great despite any flaws.
@paul @christianselig @marcoarment I’d also double or triple down on Marco and think this is a $40-60/year app.
Sean Harding@paul @christianselig @marcoarment seems to be 100% reproducible for me. Happy to help debug more deeply if there’s anything I can do.
Michael Steeber@paul @christianselig @marcoarment I’ve had this happen when posting on the web as well, multiple times. I don’t think it’s the client.
Brendan@TapForms 🇨🇦@michaelsteeber @paul @christianselig @marcoarment the missing image thing happened to me just today in the previous build. Replied to my own post and attached the image and it worked the second time.
Geoff Green@paul @christianselig @marcoarment fwiw I’ve had something similar happen in another app, either toot or mammoth.
Jonathan Joelson@paul @christianselig @marcoarment I’ve encountered this same bug with other clients, including the official client, when the server is being hammered.
In addition to images occasionally failing, a few weeks back I tried several times in a row to attach a video and the post was published without it every time. That might be a good way to try to reproduce it yourself.
Jordan Kay@jjoelson @paul @christianselig @marcoarment Have seen in @tootapp once or twice, doubt it’s a client issue.
@_Jordan @jjoelson @paul @marcoarment @tootapp there needs to be a place for Mastodon API devs to congregate like r/redditdev to discuss and strategize these bugs haha
Tal Atlas@paul i totally get this. While everyone on this chain understands prerelease software if you sent it out you’d probably be in for a lot of support requests.
Ben Rosengart@paul @christianselig @marcoarment I have, several times, though not personally. @Cdespinosa ran into it, I believe.
Jack@marcoarment @paul heck I’ll pay $20 for an alpha.
Jon Edwards@marcoarment @paul Agreed 💯
The Ivory TestFlight has been a game changer for interacting with Mastadon.
Stammy@marcoarment @paul this is the way!
Buck@marcoarment @paul Agree w/ Marco -- but maybe with timeline sync as one more thing to add first. I didn't realize how much I like that across devices until I didn't have it.
Eric Lindvall@marcoarment @paul This is the way.
Daniel Silva@marcoarment @paul +1. Running the alpha so far this does not feel like an alpha AT ALL.
@marcoarment I get it but it just feels weird to charge for something in this much of an unfinished state. Hell even what I have in mind for a 1.0 is going to have an Early Access App Store label because there’s so much more I’d normally want to do.
Ross Kimes@paul @marcoarment I’ll second Marco on this. What you have is great, and the kind of person that is using Mastodon at this point will get that it’s missing features that are coming. It can afford to be a little less “mainstream polished” than a Twitter app could.
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Cesare Forelli@paul @marcoarment counterpoint: I am missing nothing day by day, never had a crash or encountered something that resembles bug.
In a 1.0 people don’t expect everything, and the fact that 500 slots fill in 15 seconds with people wondering around as Lemmings asking for access tells everything about the other clients.
Wu Evar 🇪🇺🇺🇦@maschinentraum @paul @marcoarment For a 1.0, in the desert that is the panorama of Mastodon clients, I can happily copy, delete and repost. You do you.
@cdf1982 @paul
To me, you are glorifying/hyping Ivory and „shittalking“ the other apps and the browser version, but maybe I missread your post here. Ivory is good, I agree on that. Is it superior to all the other apps (Metatext, Toot! and the browser version) out there? (Imho) no - or not yet. Does it certain things better? Of course! Does it look better? Definitely! Does is certain things worse? Also a „yep“ from me. Is it superior? No. Just my opinion.
To me, you are glorifying/hyping Ivory and „shittalking“ the other apps and the browser version, but maybe I missread your post here. Ivory is good, I agree on that. Is it superior to all the other apps (Metatext, Toot! and the browser version) out there? (Imho) no - or not yet. Does it certain things better? Of course! Does it look better? Definitely! Does is certain things worse? Also a „yep“ from me. Is it superior? No. Just my opinion.
@maschinentraum @paul We have different expectations from a 1.0, I guess.
Derek Seaman@paul @marcoarment If Marco says ship, then I'd ship. DYING here to get something usable and everyone is raving about Ivory.
Oz Lubling@vdereks @paul @marcoarment I second everyone. Happy to pay for an app that elevates the mastodon experience.
@vdereks @marcoarment Ivory is beautiful and fast but (in the current state) not „the perfect Mastodon client“ but really an early access version. So I totally get @paul point here. There is quite some stuff missing what other clients or simply „Mastodon in Safari“ offer and that’s not just the icing on the cake features.
@vdereks @marcoarment @paul You don’t have to deliver the perfect product you can’t improve anymore with 1.0 but atm it feels too early to me. (They probably would get away with this because of the hype and the overall quality though)
Matt Langford@paul @marcoarment Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Ship it and keep refining it and adding features. There’s a long line willing to subscribe and we’ll be just fine with it.
rick@paul @marcoarment yes but if logic was applied to every mastodon app literally none of them would have shipped
Drew Shannon@paul @marcoarment as a longtime Tweetbot user and someone who hasn’t gotten into the Alpha yet, I’d be happy to pay if it meant I could use the app (which I hear great things about)!
Rob Eden@paul @marcoarment Agree with Marco. I’d be happy to help support development that way.
Leeward@paul … @marcoarment is right. I’d gladly pay for this now and look forward to additional features later. I WANT to pay you for your hard work so there’s a good business reason to keep developing and improving Ivory.
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Kyle Bradbury@marcoarment @paul agile development something something
Ship the minimum viable product and ship small iterations rapidly
I know the App Store rarely functions that way but I’d pay for it!
John Lenaghan@paul @marcoarment I haven’t managed to get into the Alpha yet but as a longtime Tweetbot user, I’d happily pay for a semi-finished version. From what I’ve read so far, most of my Tweetbot muscle memory will carry over. That alone would be worth the $20/year that Marco suggested.
Bud Gibson@paul This of good, but it’s missing some critical features. I’d need to be able to see all notifications and lists before considering a purchase.
@paul @marcoarment Ivory is very good as it is now but every developer wants to make sure they ship something that meets their own standards. And we know how high those standards are with all Tapbots apps. Ship it when you're ready Paul.
Sean C.@paul @marcoarment personally i trust you and would be willing to pay an annual sub for what you currently have -- i’ve been testing several options and sure whatever you have now is still a lot
better than what i have been using
better than what i have been using
Nic Hagan@paul perhaps soft launch with a tip jar?
Monoscope@paul @marcoarment I’m all for progressive enhancement, it’s like extended Xmas (new gifts everyday/week). Take my $$ please
Brandon Horst@paul @marcoarment at least get CWs in. Shipping without that will damage the ecosystem. After that, get it out there!
Bed@paul @marcoarment I for one would also happily pay $20/y starting now. You have an immensely positive track record and lots of good faith and trust!
S★m V★rm★@marcoarment @paul currently running a poll related to this question ;) Sample size not great, but the percentages have held steady… Cheers!
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@paul Totally understood. I’m the same way sometimes. But we’re never finished!
We’re selling an ongoing service of slowly making an app over time that’s never complete and never perfect, but is pretty good most of the time.
And customers are OK with that, because “pretty good most of the time” is still better than most other apps.
Hell, if you don’t want to charge people for its unfinished state, give the IAP a two-month-long free trial, “finish” it, then remove the trial.