Charlie StrossWhat. The. Whatting. What?
Simon Landmine@cstross Got to admit, it's an inspired trailer! :D
Aaron Ross Powell ☸️@cstross I still have kind of a hard time believing this movie is real. Particularly given the level of talent involved on both sides of the camera, it feels like one of those old College Humor parodies.
Mark Caldwell@cstross If they'd done something with the cross cut
johnaldis@johnaldis @cstross Sorry - yes they do but 2001 wouldn't have a lot of impact if they done that. What would the Barby equivalent of a Space Station have been?
knightly@cstross
I guess I'm a sucker for a well-executed 2001: A Space Odyssey parody, because I actually want to see that now?
I guess I'm a sucker for a well-executed 2001: A Space Odyssey parody, because I actually want to see that now?
bunnyAdvocate@cstross I love the trailer, but I'm wondering what the overlap is between an audience that will appreciate a 2001 homage and Barbie fans? Sad as I am to admit it, the 2001 fandom is pretty old.
Although admittedly the trailer worked, I'm definitely going to need to check out the Barbie film now.
Chris Hoadley@bunnyAdvocate @cstross Yeah. I had no plan on seeing the Barbie movie. But now...if they are capable of this...maybe I will.
@bunnyAdvocate @cstross They don’t *need* a trailer to make Barbie fans watch the Barbie movie…
dragonfrog@bunnyAdvocate @cstross FWIW Barbie is 9 years older than 2001 (1959 & 1968 respectively). So there's a generation of folks who played with Barbie dolls and also saw 2001 when it first came into the cinemas.
Aqiul@cstross is it crazy that this makes Black Mirror feel normal?
Ellie Harvie@cstross my mother was a 70’s feminist and would not let me get a Barbie doll. While I espouse most of her views, to this day I secretly yearn for one. This trailer kind of made me giddy. I am not proud of that.
Tomalak@cstross Me: "There're def not gona do the skull smashing scen ... aaaallrighty then, never mind"
BashStKid@cstross
Should be able to generate a few kW from Kubrick spinning in his grave ...
Should be able to generate a few kW from Kubrick spinning in his grave ...
milotha@cstross That should come with a sanity loss warning.
@cstross Have you seen the side by side of 2001 Space Odyssey? They really worked to get them to align. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u4VVF49XtIo
The Barbie Movie Will Save Cinema #shorts
meditative zebra*Slavoj Žižek voice*
actually it is perfectly thematic *sniff* because the Barbie trailer is a commentary on the superficiality of pop culture *sniff* you watch the Barbie monolith and enjoy the spectacle *sniff* not realizing the entire time that the scene being referenced is about civilization achieving greater instruments of destruction *sniff* and what is Barbie if not an instrument of destruction of independent ways of thinking?
Brian M Milton@cstross I really do need a sit down after that.
It does a wonderful job of teasing my interest, which is its job, yet a part of me is offended unto horror by them slapping me with that much Eighties dayglo.
It does a wonderful job of teasing my interest, which is its job, yet a part of me is offended unto horror by them slapping me with that much Eighties dayglo.
UnappliedPhysicist@cstross
Internet: "They're making a Barbie movie!"
Me: "Why would I want to see that?"
Barbie Trailer: <parodies 2001: A Space Odyssey>
Me: "I'm not sure what the hell that was, but you have my attention."
Internet: "They're making a Barbie movie!"
Me: "Why would I want to see that?"
Barbie Trailer: <parodies 2001: A Space Odyssey>
Me: "I'm not sure what the hell that was, but you have my attention."
CaseyLRead a story many, many years ago that pointed out Barbie was the first doll not designed to reinforce Wife/Mom roles for little girls.
She was the first doll that was an adult, with her own car, house, and career. Lots of careers, in fact. And she was single. Always. Had a boyfriend, but never married.
Seems odd to say so, but Barbie was a subversive feminist icon in a lot of ways.
If this movie goes with that theme, it will be quite interesting.
Fade@CaseyL @cstross It reminds me of the discussions I see about the miniskirt uniform in Star Trek (TOS), and how it's now often read as sexist/objectifying, but at the time was a deliberate feminist statement: "Hey, we can be feminine in a modern way that's not oppressively modest; our options aren't Motherly or Man, there is in fact a third option."
JohnMashey@fade @CaseyL @cstross
Mattel had a “Barbie benchmark” for 3D graphics workstations, a3D model would be spun around. I worked for Silicon Graphics & they used our systems. As usual, I’d ask customers what problems they were solving. Here, it was fact that Barbie’s waist is thin & dolls would break. They were optimizing fluid/heat flow for plastic injection molding to strengthen waist without making it bigger.
Mattel had a “Barbie benchmark” for 3D graphics workstations, a3D model would be spun around. I worked for Silicon Graphics & they used our systems. As usual, I’d ask customers what problems they were solving. Here, it was fact that Barbie’s waist is thin & dolls would break. They were optimizing fluid/heat flow for plastic injection molding to strengthen waist without making it bigger.
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Kathleen TuiteHaving been involved in the uh, influence of Barbie’s career (from computer engineer with massive internalized sexism and likely weaponized incompetence to more well rounded game developer who is capable of collaboration and respecting art and engineering simultaneously) by making Feminist Hacker Barbie…. I have nurtured a deep appreciation for her (since the days I wrapped her in toilet paper, cut her hair, and used the Barbie fashion designer software).
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Karrie JacobsEagerly awaiting the Barbie/ White Noise double feature.
PatienceltdThat's what They (whoever "They" may be) want you to think.
[Honestly, "They" will make money from this steaming pile of campy, retro gender essentialism out of sheer horror value.]
Robert Petersen 
@cstross this is fairly brilliant. Whomever shot this has to be given kudos. First two shots are just lifted from 2001, third at least shopped, but the rest are very good location recreations it looks like.
Credit where it’s due, someone put in a shocking amount of effort into this. If this movie plays the parody and/or subversive feminism line just right in general might end up worth a watch.
Nik Butler@cstross no matter the outcome ... it will be an odyssey ...
Angus McIntyre@cstross I will admit that I did not have "The trailer for the 'Barbie' movies is a shot-for-shot remake of the opening of '2001'" on my 2022 Bingo card.
And that's just the FIRST trailer. Place your bets now on whether we get "Psycho" or "Un Chien Andalou" for the second.
@angusm Personally I'm hoping for a "Terminator" mashup with "Un Chien Andalou" references as Arn^WBarbie slices open her own eyeball then inserts a screwdriver to dig out a horrified (and now dead) cop's bullet, before picking up her trench broom and kicking open the doors of a shuttered Toys R'Us big box store …
@cstross If Hollywood doesn't deliver, you can always work it into the next "Laundry" novel.
@angusm Too late; the next New Management book is headed to the printers (releases in May), and the next Laundry book is … well, I have editorial notes. (TLDR is the editors like it but it's too short, can I make it longer?)
Bruno Girin@brunogirin @angusm Alas, no. (Our protagonist has NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN a colour TV, or been allowed to go to a cinema since 1984.)
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Mark Gellis 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇺🇦 🌈@cstross We're probably not the intended audience for this one. 😀
Bill Dobie@cstross In the name of all craziness and marketing is this!!!?
Marc Jacobs@cstross Love it.
Now do Major Matt Mason crossed with “Open the pod bay door, Hal.”
Wilhelm GereStanley Kubrick is spinning in his grave.
Remco van Bree@cstross I actually trust that Greta Gerwig might be able to pull it off and make a good movie out of this.
Kate Jeffery@cstross I really want to see this movie now
@cstross It’s the inclusion of the match cut which really sells it for me.
noahm@cstross That's brilliant! I wouldn't have expected anything to get me to watch a Barbie trailer even once, let alone watch it multiple times and share it with others, but that's what I've done. 😂
Thalass@cstross I actually kinda want to watch it haha
David Cuthbert@cstross It's Margot Robbie, who brought us gems like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrMTLV2cR2Q
I'm curious to see what she'll bring to this one.
