This is a bad look for the NY Times. Don’t beg Elon to allow your reporter back. That place is fatally corrupted.

Better idea: start your own Mastodon instance.

@JamesGleick imagine that, the NYT totally not grasping power relations
@JamesGleick NYT misses the point that they are the product Musk sells to advertisers, instead they beg the Nazi to be allowed to be exploited.

@pattykimura @JamesGleick

Precisely. Every action taken on Twitter, whether as a producer or a consumer (writer or reader) is literally the product of Twitter.

https://robertsonp.substack.com/p/in-defense-of-the-twitter-quitter

In Defense of the Twitter Quitter

You don’t need to stay on Twitter and ‘fight’

Phil's Takes
That was my reaction to the statement released yesterday by members of Twitter’s former Trust and Safety Council. Imploring Musk to be benevolent. Messed up.

https://social.sanfranciscan.org/@chema/posts/AQcY2FeM0w7EIEvlpI
Chema Hernández Gil :verifiable: (@[email protected])

I am disappointed by the statement released today by members of Twitter’s former Trust and Safety Council. It betrays a naïveté about the nature of #Twitter.Twitter is a corporation and in a corpor...

@JamesGleick I didn't expect that CNN would put itself in the driver's seat -- "we will reevaluate our relationship with Twitter" -- whereas the NYTimes would take a weak, plaintive approach. How the Grey Lady has fallen. I wish I had a better understanding of what led to the NYT's transformation into a paper that defends the status quo.
@tobie @JamesGleick @cbn2 exactly! Just stop already with the “you better have a good explanation” BS, get up, and leave!
@tobie @JamesGleick The NY Times hasn't been its old self for quite awhile now. They started appealing to the richest and most elite and started to ignore the ordinary people. We used to get great tips for local NYC restaurants from their pages - remember restaurants under $25? Now it's nothing but high end stuff. And that was just the beginning. Then their "news" became "analysis" more of the time and it's just not the same.
@tobie @JamesGleick I actually find myself appreciating the WSJ's news section more than the Times' now. It's pretty neutral (don't go near the editorial page though!).

@Mauigirl52 @JamesGleick It's dreadful to see the NYT's decline. From Judy Miller plugging "weapons of mass destruction" to Thrush, Choznick and others pushing "But her emails" in 2016 to Maggie Haberman assuming the role of Trump whisperer to Aaron Blake praising DeSantis for his autocratic form of state governance, it's been a rapid descent for the paper into being a mouthpiece for the RNC.

I'll take a look as the WSJ's news section.

@tobie @JamesGleick Agree. And I remember when they interviewed some neo-Nazi guy living in middle America, showing how "normal" his everyday life is. 🙄
In Defense of the Twitter Quitter

You don’t need to stay on Twitter and ‘fight’

Phil's Takes
@JamesGleick Aaron Rupar is asking to be reinstated as well, on his substack. He'd like access to all his years of work in his archived tweets, a point I had forgotten about until it was pointed out to me. Apologies to Aaron Rupar
@AssiduousRabbit @JamesGleick
TBF, he has said he has years worth of work. He may want to get his archive. Hopefully if he's reinstated he won't post.
@timpalmer @JamesGleick I forgot that. He did state that in his substack post. Thank you for pointing that out to me
@JamesGleick @nytimes
It’s pathetic how much NYT is kissing Elon’s ass.
Another narcissistic egomaniac.
Thank fuck Musk wasn’t born here.🙄
@JamesGleick he's holding a redo poll, after the first one told him to restore accounts now. Because you know, he didn't get the result he wanted.
@MarkBignell @JamesGleick $44Billion for his own personal myspace page
@MarkBignell @JamesGleick I voted "Longer than 7 days" on the principle that you don't interrupt your opponent when he's making a huge blunder.

@MarkBignell @JamesGleick I refuse to follow musk, but do want to see the stupid polls he posts.

I wish there was an account I could sub to that links to his “polls”.

Sigh, these polls are probably one of the most idiotic ways he could make platform decisions. It’s not only mob rule and transparently leading questions, but also a self-selecting group of biased participants.

@vctrsigma @JamesGleick that's #ElonFudd for you. You could probably add the link you want to post onto the bird inside the Linktree account.
@JamesGleick ridiculous. They shouldn’t go back!
@JamesGleick that is exactly what needs to happen. There will be 10 million people on here soon. Why would you not want to have an @abc.com or @msnbc.com or whatever?
@JamesGleick I would have thought that at least one large news org would have spun up their own instance by now.... Sadly no.
@JamesGleick That requires a significant outlay of cash and hiring some specialized IT people. That's something that will be weighed as a major business decision, not as a hasty response to a spoiled brat who had his feelings hurt.

@AlgoCompSynth @JamesGleick

I doubt would be that much, especially if the Times limits itself to their own reporters and editorial staff. Heck, law blogger Teri Kanefield's husband spun up her own Instance pretty quickly. That should be easily within the capabilities of the IT department of one of the biggest newspapers in the world.

@Teri_Kanefield

@JamesGleick If a journalist is working for a publisher that doesn't wish to host an instance, they are possibly good candidates to set up their account over @Journa.host. Probably not a place for me to try to hang out. But then I like the idea of having my instance on a domain I own. Branding and all.
@JamesGleick This is actually the perfect response. They are keeping it at a professional level while hinting that Musk is not.
Mastadon is far from the de rigueur alternative.
@JamesGleick @leo “we hope that accounts are reinstated” is just the weirdest of it all. People - especially people in IT and journalism - should just opt out of that
@JamesGleick "Our new favorite leopard just ate our face"
@JamesGleick CNN's statement:
@JamesGleick If these companies aren't setting up their own mastodon servers right now, they're dumb.
@JamesGleick Musk wants them to come back begging for his forgiveness. The problem is that Musk's policies are so erratic, no one knows what's ok to publish and what isn't. The news should not and cannot be dictated by this empty man.

@JamesGleick I think it's completely reasonable for NYT to release the statement they did. That's part of the "good fight". Sure, they can make a mastodon account, and probably should, but I'm still happy to see high-profile pushback against the Musketeer.

Anything to drag his name through the mud and get the public to question what he's doing.

@JamesGleick NYT is doing the right thing; when Musk doesn’t reinstall; Twitter is proven corrupted. Apple etc will ban Twitter from their stores. Gathering evidence.

@JamesGleick WaPo, too. They should pull their ads snd so forth.

But these orgs put their reporters in cages in concert with Trump, rather than refuse to go along with it. They are not good orgs.

@JamesGleick That paper is a font of bad looks. I see two fatally corrupted places.
@JamesGleick This is typical of NYT and similar outlets. They lack the courage to challenge the status quo.

@JamesGleick They all just need to leave. It's turning into rubbernecking an accident and that just causes its own problems.

As they learned on the Simpsons when the advertisements came to life, the only way to kill them was "Just don't look"

#Simpsons #TwitterMigration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaGYTNWFMMs

Paul Anka - Just Don't Look

YouTube
@JamesGleick @spelled_with_a_k Rubbernecking is a pretty good analogy.
@patrickoldhiker @JamesGleick the simpsons apply to everything 😆😆😆

@JamesGleick

Confirming to the bully that they have all the power always ends well

@JamesGleick

This is what Elon wants.

Journalists supplicating and prostrating for attention and table scraps.

All journalists should close their accounts and get the hell off of twitter.

@JamesGleick Best move would have been to pull all their journalists from Twitter, further delegitimizing site. But sucking up to authoritarians kind of New York Times "whole thing," as kids say.

@JamesGleick @Lazarou

"Please please please let us share a platform with all your nazi friends"

— The New York Times

Chief TWiT :twit: (@[email protected])

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@JamesGleick That feels like a weird thing for them to do until, say, the White House or state governments do it. While the newsmakers are posting over there, they have to be over there. What I would like is for public affairs offices to start putting out news here, then the papers follow.
@JamesGleick NYTimes should be setting up its own Mastodon or similar service and pulling *all* their staff off twitter and putting them onto their own service.
@JamesGleick Indeed. They need to realise they, not Elon / Twitter are the "kingmaker" in this situation. The power lies with the content provider, not the platform.

@JamesGleick One would hope these papers issue these statements as they would to an Iran, a Russia, a White House that has expelled them or not let them into a presser. Then it might be justified -- there was a beat to cover, they were prevented from covering it by X.

But that's not the tone. The tone is more like, "You are preventing us from using the tool of our trade. We are a guild that absolutely requires this tool or we can't be a guild worth its name."

An instance wdn't fix that problem

@prokofy Twitter is not a nation; it is a private company. And the Times is mistaken if it thinks Twitter is a necessary tool of the trade. It really isn’t.
@JamesGleick It's a beat like a country. Some corporations reach the size and magnitude of countries and people owe their souls to the company store, etc. I think the Times never got over their mauling from the early days of social media stealing their lunch and they are like Xerox flinching over every new PC out there.
@JamesGleick But see, the NYT is fatally corrupted, too!
@JamesGleick “Questionable” is understating the matter to say the least.