Another Angry Woman
if you go knocking on enough doors asking to see the devil, eventually he may answer
Developing Stacy 
@stavvers this makes me even angrier about the fact that we spent half of my first ever music lesson in school learning the correct way to draw a treble clef.
@The4thCircle omg same, and because of that I can probably draw a better one than literally any of them, an entirely useless skill
@stavvers I'm calling it, this makes us better composers than any of those try hards.
Angela Glansbury 🚽@The4thCircle @stavvers
It needs to indicate the G, Beethoven's is a perfectly good G-clef. Sorry I'm taking this seriously.
It needs to indicate the G, Beethoven's is a perfectly good G-clef. Sorry I'm taking this seriously.
I never knew that. What is the bass clef meant to look like/indicate?
@The4thCircle
Indicates the F
You can see some of the early forms of the G-clef when you scroll down to the history.
@The4thCircle
I asked around my work recently and I'm one of only 2 people who can read music. Deeply sad, all of the knowledge and culture locked away in not participatory social norms.
I asked around my work recently and I'm one of only 2 people who can read music. Deeply sad, all of the knowledge and culture locked away in not participatory social norms.
@floppyplopper
I'd love to learn to read music and play music, and draw, and sculpt and speak French and German and Swedish... But there's only so many hours in the day you know?
I'd love to learn to read music and play music, and draw, and sculpt and speak French and German and Swedish... But there's only so many hours in the day you know?
@The4thCircle
so long as you do one of those things that's great!
so long as you do one of those things that's great!
@floppyplopper reading now about how these symbols developed I'm actually questioning some of these clefs even more. They don't seem to be specifying a single line. Some of them have a main loop which barely contains the G line or contains multiple lines...
@The4thCircle
I think this is all manuscript, it just needs to be legible to a publisher who probably is used to interpreting rough manuscripts. If it was for performance that would may be different. These are unambiguously good G-clefs for what they need to do.
Mozart composed freehand and simply published with very few corrections. Very different to the manuscript of an author which would have gone through several revisions.