Zhi ZhuDec 10, 2022

"Once you're willing to debate whether one group of people or another should be abused, then abusing and expelling people from society is something that is up for debate."
~@JuliusGoat

Really good thread about being "reasonable" when discussing intolerance from A. R. Moxon.

Read the whole thing:
https://mstdn.social/@JuliusGoat@mastodon.social/109486257175259797

Reminds me of the "Paradox of Tolerance" essay.

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A.R. Moxon, Verified Duck 🦆 (@[email protected])

Imagine you have a friend. Let’s call him Rick Reasonable. Now imagine you have an enemy. Let’s call your enemy Bart B. Oilingwater. Bart is a real piece of crap. Here's what he does: Whenever he sees you, he throws boiling water at you. Usually you dodge it, but every once in a while, he catches you with a bit. You have to constantly be on the lookout for Bart, because if you let your guard down, it’s scalding water time!

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Show threadZhi ZhuDec 10, 2022

The Paradox of Tolerance

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia

Show threadZhi ZhuDec 10, 2022
Comic strip based on Karl Popper's "The Paradox of Tolerance"
Show threadZhi ZhuDec 12, 2022

The Paradox of Tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance, not as a moral standard, but as a social contract.

If someone does not abide by the contract, then they are not covered by it.

In other words: The intolerant are not abiding by the terms of the social contract of mutual tolerance. Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract, and their intolerance should NOT be tolerated.

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Show threadR. Leigh HennigDec 12, 2022
@ZhiZhu Wait, so is the argument here that you *should* tolerate the intolerant? Because if so, then hard disagree
Show threadZhi ZhuDec 12, 2022

@semioticstandard

NO!

The intolerant are not living up to the social contract of mutual tolerance. Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract and should not be tolerated.

Show threadR. Leigh HennigDec 12, 2022
@ZhiZhu okay, gotcha!
Show threadZhi Zhu

@semioticstandard

I edited the post to make it more obvious. 🙂

Dec 12, 2022 at 6:05pmWeb