Timeline of a new Mastodon user:

Day 1: this sucks servers are confusing and why is my feed empty

Day 2: why is there no quote tweet this is dumb

Day 3: mastodon better make some changes if it wants to compete with tw_tter

Day 7: hm, people are really nice here

Day 10: loving the no ads and real conversations

Day 15: THE WORKERS MUST SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND EXECUTE CAPITALISTS  

#TwitterMigration

Not saying this is gonna *make* you into a leftist, it's just gonna amplify your already existing left-curious tendencies.

If you think that sentence is re-adapted from something I used to say to frat guys in college, you're right.

@andthisismrspeacock or Day 6 they cry "I'm going to Hive because this is too confusing"

I block, unfollow the person who boosted them, and my timeline improves a bit more 😁

@andthisismrspeacock not universally true, the Fediblock people and their supporters saw all this freedom and decided the Fediverse needed some cops to keep order.
@TrismegistusMx @andthisismrspeacock paradox of tolerance, dude. read it

@tillianisafox @TrismegistusMx @andthisismrspeacock

I think Tris is actually more concerned with the "who watches the watchmen" problem. Their solution is to just not have any.

Personally, I think we should figure out how to select good moderators who we can trust. Otherwise, bad actors will cause harm to a certain percentage of users.

I won't pretend it's not a hard problem to solve though. Anyone who controls your access to information wields a huge amount of power over you.

@ianburnette @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock It's a volunteer position that relies on a person with an inherent bias to think that people can't govern themselves. It doesn't matter if you select the best moderators, the job corrupts.

"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely."
β€” John Dalberg-Acton

"With great power comes great responsibility."
β€” Uncle Ben (Spiderman)

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever."
β€” George Orwell.

@TrismegistusMx @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock

I don't disagree that power corrupts, but we should design mechanisms to mitigate that rather than throwing up our hands and saying "we can't have the perfect solution, so let's just have a free for all".

I used to help run a WoW guild, which meant managing ~50 people. We had one gay man and two women, and while no one in the guild was explicitly homophobic or misogynistic, the two of them were constantly the butt of jokes.

@TrismegistusMx @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock Not because people didn't like them, but because they were different, and therefore interesting. It was really hard to keep things fun for everyone.

It's easy to say "block content you don't like, be your own moderator", and that's easy if you're only seeing the occasional troll, but not if a sizable chunk of society denies your basic human rights.

@ianburnette @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock at what point did I say throw your hands up and have a free-for-all? Every time an authoritarian is challenged on the righteousness of their authority they start throwing out strawman arguments.

You haven't asked about my solutions because you're invested in your own authority.

@TrismegistusMx @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock

It is not enough to give the user the controls to moderate content themselves. Platforms need to give us tools to help share that burden so that the marginalized can still participate in the conversation.

@ianburnette @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock all right well it's been nice knowing you on the fediverse. It's clear that you're only invested in your own narrative, and I'm not invested in entertaining it.
@tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock Why do you think I won't tolerate your call to authority? You should remove ACAB from your username if you're going to support Fediblock. It's obvious that you think cops are necessary to protect you at the expense of others, even though we all have our own block and filter tools.

@TrismegistusMx @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock mate fediblock posts are people saying XYZ instance is doing XYZ thing and then other instances can decide whether that warrants a block. when fediblock says mastodon.scot is willingly harobring AN ACTUAL FUCKING COP, sharing that information is self-defense.

this is the entire point of federation, we're allowed to share who we're blocking so that we don't have to spend every waking minute tailoring blocks ourselves individually. you have a severe misunderstanding of what cops actually are and what their role is if you think sharing information on shitty behavior is what cops do. like are you gonna call the people doxxing nazis fucking cops?

literally just don't block everyone you see tagged with fediblock if you think people are wrong.

@TrismegistusMx @tillianisafox @andthisismrspeacock like damn dude can't wait to hear how whisper networks and indian women beating the shit out of rapists is supposedly fed shit, apparently cops are the people who hold you accountable for your actions lol, anarchism is when nobody is allowed to stop me from hurting people

@TrismegistusMx If you value "freedom of speech" (which is not at all impacted by instances blocking other instances) over the well-being of other people on the network (which is impacted heavily by abuse of freedom of speech), I can recommend another social network to you that may suit your ideas better.

Freedom of speech does not imply others have to listen.

@rnlf It's not about their freedom of speech. It's about your ability to decide for yourself. You have block tools. You are advocating for an authority to decide what you see. That has never worked out for the benefit of the person giving up their power. You don't know what you don't get to see, and your blindness makes you easy to manipulate.

@TrismegistusMx Users have all the abilty to decide for themselves.

The "authority" is a group of moderators you hopefully trust (otherwise, what the heck are you doing on that instance in the first place?)

There are instances that don't defederate others. If you want to read all the crap that exists in the fediverse, you're free to go there. If you don't like Fediblock, go to an instance that doesn't use it. Easy.

You're actually endorsing less choice, not more.

@TrismegistusMx Without instances that defederate, you only have the choice to first see all the hate, likely directed at your specific minority group. Means you only have the choice to get retraumatised each time you open your fed timeline.

With instances that defederate, you have real choice.

@rnlf what choice? The choice is made for you. You don't know what you don't know. You only know that you have absolute faith in the authority figures that control your experience.
@rnlf you know what happens to servers who don't join the fediblock fascism? They get blocked too. Fascists love making lists, and if you don't like their lists you go on a list. Also really not digging your strawman argument that an uncensored fediverse is immediately horrific. Like all fascists, you're taking a minority that is indefensible and using it to control the narrative. You admit that everyone has block tools, but you think that a cop doing all the blocking for you is somehow better.
@rnlf you don't know or trust any moderators. You have faith because you don't have enough information to establish trust. You get suckered for branding into giving up your consciousness to authority.

@TrismegistusMx Ah yes, you really know how this stuff works, I see.

Everybody on my instance knows one of the admins personally. That's how the entire instance is built.

That's how most small instances are built.

@rnlf I call bullshit on "most small instances," but I'm absolutely not surprised to see you arguing from a position of privilege for the oppression of everyone else.
@andthisismrspeacock
I've seen more than a few people who are running their own instance by day 21...
@andthisismrspeacock who will think of the children? Ahhhhhhhhh! :)
@andthisismrspeacock hitting all the boxes for me so far πŸ˜‚
@a_patil @andthisismrspeacock i come like that from Tweeter...i wonder how my radical views could become more radical here...Will my Anarquism be fed here? My #anticolonialms or #climatejustice or my #libertariandescentralizedecosocialsm ? Or my extreme #tolerance with the freedom to believe or not in any #imaginary deity or my lacknof skills to have a #defined #reality? ...

@andthisismrspeacock

Try following hashtags. Your timeline will simply fill with what you're interested in. You don't need to find people to follow ... or be followed by others. It's not a royalist battle for supremacy... 😊

@gsymon @andthisismrspeacock this is the coolest thing so far... (day 8)
@andthisismrspeacock I think I'm around day 4. But I'm feeling somewhere in between. Definitely don't like that there's no quote tweets or trΓΆts or whatever. And I don't find many people here
@andthisismrspeacock @stephjovi same 😭 I’m still at the stage of trying to find more ppl to make my feed a little less sad

@newegg @andthisismrspeacock @stephjovi Follow #Hashtags and you will find people to follow. #Hashtags are important here on #Mastodon because that is how we can easily find each other across our individual instances.

Also, make sure that you are on an instance with people with similar interests / world views. You'll immediately have things in common then.

Finally, just follow anyone who sounds or looks interesting and turn notifications on. You can always turn them off or unfollow later.

@newegg @stephjovi @andthisismrspeacock No problem! Mastodon can seem lonely at first because there is no algorithm to feed you content. Other social media platforms do that because they are trying to sell ads and you are their product, so they need your engagement. That leads to all sorts of toxicity that just doesn't exist here.

The flip side of that is that you have to be proactive in building your own feed. Otherwise, you'll see mostly nothing and feel lonely.

@thomas_crews @andthisismrspeacock @stephjovi it’s taken me a while to change not only how I use Mastodon as social media, but how I think of it.. it definitely takes effort but it’s totally worth it when everyone on here is so nice n welcoming
@newegg @andthisismrspeacock @stephjovi if you haven't already, try https://debirdify.pruvisto.org to easily import all mastodon usernames that are mentioned in your twitter followers/following profiles. Having 100 familiar people to start with made my local TL that much less lonely. also comes in handy for instance picking as it gives u stats about where your peeps are :)
Debirdify

This is a web app that helps you find out which of the people you follow on Twitter are on Mastodon/in the Fediverse already and follow all of them easily.

@zumo @newegg @andthisismrspeacock interesting program and made jn Austria that's pretty cool
@andthisismrspeacock I got to day 7 on day 1. Also! People see my posts while I'm NOT complaining! That never happened on twitter!
@andthisismrspeacock I wish. But I do get your sentiment.
@andthisismrspeacock this made me chortle loudly
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@andthisismrspeacock "I am in this Toot and I do not like it"

@andthisismrspeacock

The best
One thing I am loving here is the sense of humor and even playfulness

#EatTheRich

@andthisismrspeacock day 16 here, but I'm stuck on day 3. It works nicely as a small tumblr-esque SM platform. But it needs a lot of change if it ever wants the potential to replace twt as a global hub of journalism and protest.
@andthisismrspeacock @davidgerard THIS IS THE FEATURE LIBERALS WANT

@parsingphase
i was confused by this toot and then remembered that "liberal" means basically the opposite in american and german politics.

@andthisismrspeacock @davidgerard

@guenther @parsingphase @andthisismrspeacock @davidgerard wait until you realise it means the same thing. It's just that the US people haven't realised there is space further to the left.
@loke @guenther @parsingphase @andthisismrspeacock @davidgerard We are working on that, it’s not easy, but we are trying!
@loke @guenther @andthisismrspeacock @davidgerard As a European now living in the US, I can assure you that they have. The word "Liberal" itself is rapidly losing favor as it's seen either as synonymous with "Centrist" by the left, or as an insult by the right, in the sense of "This is the future liberals want", their belief that anything remotely novel is a left-wing conspiracy and that anyone to the left of them is "a Liberal". There's a recognizable "left" beyond "liberals" here.