AdamNov 24, 2022

Highlights Baroness Brinton speaking at the Long Covid debate in the House of Lords 17 Nov 2022.

- 1 in 22 will have a major cardiac event within 12 months after infection
- 1 in 5 will get Long Covid
- The more often you get Covid the more likely you are to get Long Covid

#MECFS #CFS #MyalgicE #PwME #ChronicFatigueSyndrome #MyalgicEncephalomyelitis #MECFSAwareness #LongCovid #Covid19

Show threadKatieAsNov 24, 2022
@brokenbattery 1 in 22 of all covid infections or 1 in 22 or those with some form of Long Covid, for the cardiac event? Either way why isn’t this front page news every day?
Show threadKimNov 24, 2022
@KatieAs @brokenbattery Yes that’s the first clarification I though of too. Big difference if 1 in 22 Covid pts will have cardiac arrest in 12 months. 😳
Show threadAdamNov 26, 2022

@kimlango @KatieAs

Its all Covid infections.

"the incidence of serious cardiac and cardiovascular problems was 4% higher in the 12 months after people were diagnosed with COVID-19 compared to those who were not infected."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/05/1084413347/for-some-patients-cardiovascular-problems-persist-long-after-covid

For some patients, cardiovascular problems persist long after COVID

After recovering from their initial illness, COVID-19 patients can sometimes suffer serious complications such as heart attacks and strokes — even up to a year later. New research quantifies the risk.

NPR
Show threadKatieAsNov 30, 2022
@brokenbattery @kimlango @ahimsa_pdx the article says “The study found that, among those who got sick but were not hospitalized, 56 out of every 1,000 had a major adverse cardiovascular event — namely heart attack and stroke — in the 12 months following an infection”. Which seems different to 1 in 22. Maybe the 1 in 22 includes the hospitalised and they have most of the risk? I find all the stats very confusing but it’s not looking good.
Show threadAdamDec 1, 2022

@KatieAs @kimlango @ahimsa_pdx

I've not looked but someone posted this:

The 1 in 22 figure comes from https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3 , secondary: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/05/1084413347/for-some-patients-cardiovascular-problems-persist-long-after-covid

1 in 22 ~= 4%. https://chaos.social/@manawyrm/109406912853081941

Long-term cardiovascular outcomes of COVID-19 - Nature Medicine

Individuals with COVID-19 are at increased long-term risk for a wide range of cardiovascular disorders, even for individuals who were not hospitalized during the acute phase of the infection.

Nature
Show threadKimDec 1, 2022
@brokenbattery @KatieAs @ahimsa_pdx
Thanks for finding this.
56 out of 1000 is 5.6% and 1 in 22 is 5.1% So basically 5% of ‘mild’ (non hospitalized) patients are having either a heart attack or stroke within 12 months of infection.
There’s no going back to the before times.
Show threadAdam

@kimlango @KatieAs @ahimsa_pdx

The article about the paper states "Overall, the study found the incidence of serious cardiac and cardiovascular problems was 4% higher in the 12 months after people were diagnosed with COVID-19 compared to those who were not infected."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/03/05/1084413347/for-some-patients-cardiovascular-problems-persist-long-after-covid

And 1 in 22 is 4.55%. sorry I don't have time to really dig into it further.

For some patients, cardiovascular problems persist long after COVID

After recovering from their initial illness, COVID-19 patients can sometimes suffer serious complications such as heart attacks and strokes — even up to a year later. New research quantifies the risk.

NPR
Dec 1, 2022 at 4:58pmWeb