Stop saying there are no algorithms. Algorithms don't necessarily involve opaque machine learning-driven decisions. Showing posts in chronological order is an algorithm. Showing a partial ordering of posts coming in from other nodes in a federated distributed system is an algorithm. Anything involving computers uses algorithms.

Even if you can predict what it does, there's an algorithm. ESPECIALLY if you can predict what it does.

Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.

Next: Crypto means cryptography, damn it.
@mattblaze And we will get it back. Given the predominant way the coins are lost we should call them Cyber-Currencies.
@mattblaze Digital means fingers (and toes, if you’re willing to stretch).
@mattblaze is this your way of flushing out the most annoying people so you can block them?
@mattblaze Well, yeah. (Thanks, @amiest !)

@SteveBellovin @amiest

What kind of weirdo has a shirt like that?

@amiest @mattblaze @SteveBellovin I’ve got a green one and enjoyed wearing it until randos started asking about ICOs. Maybe time to pull it out of storage.

@SteveBellovin @mattblaze @amiest

I have the line art, I just need to make the shirt for "Crypto: It means cryptosporidia"

@SteveBellovin @mattblaze @amiest
Got damn boomers!
Love it 😆👍
Dan McDonald (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image I just realized I don't have to worry about my crypto, mainly because:

Mastodon Hostux
@mattblaze Unless the government offers it, then it means "we can spy on you"

@mattblaze And another thing, it's spelled "Internet", not "internet".

It is capitalized as it refers to a distinct entity. I don't know who decided it wasn't to be capitalized, but I was there helping to build the big-I Internet and I know how we spelled it then.

There is an "internet" here and another random private "internet" of networks over there; but there's the one public global "Internet".

That is all.

@lmamakos @mattblaze Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially.

...the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes.

@mattblaze I gave up on that hill a long time ago. I accept it has 2 meanings.

@mattblaze Says a guy from the country where gas could mean gas or petrol (gasoline)!

Yes, English is very context dependant, but I can only imagine some of the frustrations for non-native speakers.

@mattblaze
efficient to entice all the block candidates in one day.
@mattblaze nah, crypto means cryptozoology.
@mattblaze I remember seeing a lot of baffled and worried tokenbros passing around some news item about the NSA doing crypto

@mattblaze

That is two hills. Pick one.

@mattblaze Damn straight. It's a library we use in programming and now when I type it, a dumbass voice in my head says "bro" everytime. It's like the Meathead Rob on the DirecTV campaigns.
@mattblaze
Having watched the cryptography community bemoan this, I've always said "cryptocurrency" to make the distinction out of deference. Also, give it another year and maybe you'll be able to take the word back since everyone else will be too embarrassed to utter it 😆
@Mikal it may take a generation or two to wash away the stink.
@mattblaze Exactly! I recently had to remove "crypto" from my profile description, because people thought I'm into some shady business. I hated it.
@mattblaze look, cryptosporidium can have its currency if it insists

@mattblaze WELL AKSHULLY it’s “concealed or secret.” Modern linguistic references notwithstanding.

But yeah. Nobody wins a pedantry war.

@mattblaze Exactly! "Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs," Niklaus Wirth, 1976. lol
@mattblaze you sound like my boss. Crypto as in cryptozoology?

@mattblaze I somewhat disagree.

You are technically correct but the colloquial use of "algorithm" to mean "shady manipulation of mine and other users data, by big corporations for their own nefarious ends" is fine.

Caffeine is a drug, but when someone says "I don't want my kids doing drugs" we know they aren't talking about cans of Pepsi.

@mattblaze People have taken to using "the algorithm" to mean "the unknowable black box"...
But I'm on the hill with you.
@mattblaze Yeah. I have the inverse pet peeve. I hate when people call everything "AI". Even if it is just a bruteforced, statically precalculated tic-tac-toe bot. A dozen nested ifs do not machine learning make.
@sehe oh, I hate that. Also, using AI to mean “some sort of advanced technology that I don’t personally understand”.
@mattblaze @sehe I dunno, honestly even in the ML sense I still bristle at the use of "AI" to describe anything that currently exists (or believably could in the foreseeable future). It's not just that it's not general, but even in the fairly limited scopes of the problem domains it's applied to, the failure modes it exhibits do not give the impression that what's going on under the covers has any relation to the workings of "real" intelligence.

It's certainly a pretty lost cause at this point, but I think I'll probably continue to stubbornly employ air-quotes any time I (grudgingly) use the term myself.

@mattblaze who says "there's no algorithms"? 🤣

@mattblaze This is such a critical point! Just showing the most boosted and liked unread toots (from the last 24hs) before other toots is not some weird black magic heresy.

Finding out a good way to sort out these is just good UX. I’d like something which works both at the end of stressfull day (first open) as well as while waiting for boarding (open every 2min)

@mattblaze yeah I try to not let this one get to me because I know what they mean, but.... Sometimes I just want to say "bubble sort" to put an algorithm in people's timeline, but I suspect that's closer to shitpost than dad joke 🤣
@mattblaze My pedantic hill: the meaning of exponential. (Limitations apply. Offer of human sacrifice only available if it enables everyone to understand the concept.)
@waege Oh god yes. I'm to the point of almost kissing the ground when I hear it used accurately or near-correctly in media. (E.g., "The virus could spread exponentially." Yes! Thank you!)
@mattblaze Fair point. would you consider user-customizable "filters" on each feed to be an "algorithm"? If so then I think that would work --> but where users themselves can tweak or set every variable. And it could and should default to chronological only.

@mattblaze

Y'all nerds know what we mean.

@mattblaze

Even the floater closing the water in the toilet can be considered an alghoritm (i.e. a sequence of commands):

do (
keep_water_open
) until floater_level == top

@mattblaze I personally am okay with "an algorithm" (spooky sense instead of real sense) for mastodon anyway, as long as it's open, designed to minimize abuse (of third parties *and* the people it's "for"), and if you turn it off it fucking stays off.

I think it'd be almost nice if my fediverse instance was clever enough to go "here's a post you didn't see that a bunch of your friends liked", to take the edge off the need to read the entire home feed.

@mattblaze My undergraduate (wustl) CS 120 (intro) class explicitly defined algorithm and compared it to several other similar terms (recipe, scheme, ...). They also tested us on it on basically every exam. One of the many valuable services they provided me.

@mattblaze
Is it wrong that I find it amusing that so many people seem to have entirely missed the CW and are trying to explain to you that you're dying on a pedantic hill?

I always use "AI model" or "ML model" when I'm talking about a machine learning algorithm, because I spent so much time writing non-ML behavior algorithms for autonomous robots.