What is the impact of #covid on #PwME in the post-Omicron, post-vaccine era?

Please boost vigorously!

I'll try to put a poll on the bird site as well - please don't respond to both.

@mecfs

If you had #mecfs pre-pandemic, and got #covid after Dec 2021, did it result in a significant functional reduction that:

lasted over 6 months
30.8%
is ongoing (infected <6m)
38.5%
mostly resolved within 6m
7.7%
acute illness only
23.1%
Poll ended at .
To clarify, I want to know the effect of #covid on people who *already had* #mecfs.
@wildwoila I had #covid last month after 16 years of #MECFS. Haven't noticed any ongoing worsening of symptoms, fortunately. Had more achy joints for a few days.
@jkcantwell Glad to get a more positive data point! A good friend of mine had the same experience as you, which is reassuring.
Results, including data from the bird site, are here:
https://aus.social/@wildwoila/109385674192655657
Garth Coghlan (@[email protected])

Here are the results for the poll I ran on the effect of #Omicron on #PwME. I've combined two polls: from mastodon (n=26) and the bird site (n=71), both of which had similar results. Getting #covid after Dec 2021 resulted in a significant functional reduction that: * lasted over 6 months - 39% * is ongoing (infected <6 months ago) - 30% * mostly resolved within 6 months - 14% * acute illness only - 17% So about 30% of people had an okay outcome, and up to 70% a bad one. This is comparable to the results from MEAction's Mar 2021 survey which found 66% of respondents had a worsening of symptoms that lasted over six months. This suggests that 'milder' variants and vaccination have not substantially decreased the risks for #PwME. Boo ;( #mecfs @mecfs #CovidIsNotOver

Aus.Social

A little confused by the question. Is it for those who have had MECFS and were vaccinated and got COVID, or does it also include those never infected but whose ME symptoms worsened post-vax?

I have data for that answer & more from a large survey I did with over 1500 responses. A small % were pwME. It will take a bit to analyze first, though.

@LongCovidPharmD Ah, thanks for pointing that out.

I want to know how Omicron variants have affected people who already had #mecfs. This is to inform the current risk of getting infected (we have been shielding for three years and it is getting tiresome). I'm not concerned with if they were vaccinated or not (at this granularity - if I were doing a more detailed survey I would try to tease that out), but I assume a fair proportion would have been by the time Omicron came on the scene. Post-vax worsening of #mecfs is a separate question!

The only survey results on this question I can find are from early 2021 and that is from the Alpha/Delta pre-vax era, which arguably is not of much use to determine current risks.

@wildwoila @LongCovidPharmD
Wife - 72, mod/severe ME/CFS/Fibro, no vaccine yet. Me - 66, healthy, full-time sole caregiver, fully vaxxed incl. Omicron. Curious about side-effects of vax on a person in highly weakened state. So far she is opting for isolation & me being very careful.

@ArrowbearMoore

@LongCovidPharmD has a recent survey on vaccine reactions for #PwME on the bird site. Worth having a look to get a feel for the risk of different options. Let me know if you need me to find it for you.

@ArrowbearMoore Her reaction might be similar to covid vaccine reactions in people with Long Covid. I'm guessing she might have bout a 1 in 4 chance of the vaccine worsening her ME. On the other hand, an infection would likely have even worse consequences so it depends on how well you think you can avoid infection. See this thread...

https://twitter.com/organichemusic/status/1590308698135883777

LongCovidPharmD on Twitter

“‼️SURVEY UPDATE‼️ How has COVID-19 vaccination affected your #LongCovid symptoms? With 654 responses to this question so far: 52% no change (or fleeting changes ≤ 1 wk of vaccine) 28% worsened❌ 17% improved✅ 3% a mix How long did benefits or relapses last? See next tweet⬇️”

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@LongCovidPharmD If you have data already that would be *amazing*!
@wildwoila @mecfs When will your poll be open to vote? Both my husband and I have #LongCovid and have had Covid 4/20 and 1/22. This journey has been long, traumatic and arduous to say the least. My husband has not worked at all since 4/22. He was finally at about 85% in 1/22 when 2nd infection hit. Working was just no longer an option. We have wonderful Dr’s and a phenomenal #LongCovid medical team at #OregonHealthandSciencesUniversity but that took over a year to find.
@Makinmusic4me
It should be open right now? Let me know if it isn't! To be clear, this poll is intended for people who already had #mecfs before they got #covid. I'm glad you've got a good team - that's a rare thing.
@wildwoila @mecfs If anyone here with #MECFS could boost @wildwoila's post about the impact of #Covid on #CFS that would be amazing thank you!
@wildwoila @mecfs will we get to see the results when the poll ends? I’ve never had Covid, but I’m interested in the results.
@FranceyME
Yes, definitely! I'll combine this one with the Twitter poll (which has a lot more respondents) and share. Undecided if I'll extend the poll first.
@mecfs
@wildwoila @mecfs thanks I’ve just retweeted your post on Twitter too.
@wildwoila @mecfs whoops I just voted thinking I could retract it (to see the results) I voted for acute only. I've not had COVID but this is timely as my youngest is a close contact and it'll be a miracle if they don't get it.
@geth
Thanks for letting me know. I'll adjust the results before reporting back. Good luck avoiding it! 🤞
@wildwoila @mecfs I was diagnosed with moderately severe CFS after EBV at 13yo. My #MECFS was mostly relapsing-remitting including 2-3 months per year of being bed/house-bound after crashes into my early thirties, but has progressively worsened since. I caught covid late June 2022. I was triple vaxxed but almost ended up in hospital during the acute phase because of dizziness, instability when able to get up & incessant extreme headaches. Post-covid I've lost 10kg & had more severe crashes.
@wildwoila @mecfs so far the results here and on the other platform are not looking that great for #PWME... We'd really love to know your experience if you haven't already shared.
If you can keep boosting for another few hours that would be brilliant.