The Nameless One
محترمہ پربھا ✅A heads up to #India folks, this is not bird app, this is open source so each of the different instances you are in, there is someone else working for you to get this experience. I see lot of you asking for features and moderators, it’s pretty entitled I feel, they are funded by donation so pls try to donate to different instances you are in: for the number of folks we have brought in even if each of us pay 100 rupees, it will make huge difference . I will get information where we can donate
@citrustwee if you can help us find the web links for donation in various instances?
Deepak@Iwalkalone @citrustwee @stux yes mstdn instance has a lot of folks due to blue tick so they providing links will be very useful
Aboobacker MK@Deepsealioness @citrustwee It depends on the instances, mods on mastodon.social have no control over instances
Marcin Cieślak@Deepsealioness @stux has
https://patreon.com/mstdn and https://liberapay.com/mstdn in the profile https://mstdn.social/@stux
wakest likes your bugs ⁂@Deepsealioness @citrustwee alot of the apps also have donation pages.
Amina
Ajeesh@Deepsealioness yes please. I tried Patreon yesterday but was bit confused and left.
No place like 127.0.0.1@Deepsealioness happily, this platform deserves it. Let us know the process, or we can together collect and donate @girishNaught what say.
@Deepsealioness yes this is v important, the link to patreon for donations can be found below the page https://joinmastodon.org/
clacke: exhausted pixie dream boy 🇸🇪🇭🇰💙💛@Deepsealioness Even better: Volunteer to moderate!
@clacke I can volunteer a few hours a day
Fat Thor
NoorulMost users got home at either mastodon.social or mstdn.social
So monetise contribution to these instances first.
Despite, mastodon.social is well funded but recent surge of new users must cost them resource.
It is advised new users to contribute to their respective home instance.
For donating to #Mastodon software development can be done later pace as instances requires financial support than development
S RavichandranI don't.
I am running an other instance which is quey.org.
Though, I am seeing a few making donation now.
Have you donated yet ?
@noorul on it . Patreon log in is a bit of a problem . I already have an account but forgot the password and it is not in the manager and patreon still hasn’t sent the reset link ...
Will do as soon as I can get in
Will do as soon as I can get in
@noorul done . Sponsor at $10 per month
You rock!
@noorul Thx . the reduction in rage level after quitting twitter is worth much much more than this monthly subscription !
If you are generous to donate $10 every month, I suggest you something.
You may better have your own instance.
There is a service for this https://masto.host/pricing, roughly $10 monthly.
Even better, start/sponsor an instance which accommodate about 50 members.
The value is here to go decentralised, small.
@noorul wish I could spare the time . I spend quite a lot of time managing my own machines that I use for my ML/backtesting derivatives trading work . Will think about this though .
shirish@shirishag75 @noorul spot on . I didn’t think about that 🤦♂️ . I was focused on the AWS / software , backups and stuff !
@shirishag75 @noorul been there done that , burnt more than fingers ! ( the scaling , testing bit ) . Moderation : hmm not sure if I have the temperament to calmly handle offensive posts !
one note. Unlike Online forum, social network etc, #fediverse are interconnected and. The core value is to connect remotely.
So breaking away is better option
I was telling about single user instance or private instance for closed users.
this avoids moderation.
trust me, I would keep support self hosting.
I even trying to set up #Pleroma instance on my home server.
But I am having issues with IPv6 & IPv4 connectivity.
#Selfhosting is the best ;)
Salma سلما 
@CharismaticSal_ @noorul you could donate even $1 every month and cancel any time when you reach your intended contribution
@CharismaticSal_ @noorul paid using credit card on patreon
Credit cards are fine.
Debit cards are pain.
Top private sector, ICICI, Axis bak, HDFC debit card, & SBI debit cards work fine for me.
Indian overseas, Indian bank, similar cards failing.
Actually, I've not checked out myself.
As far I seen now, once you login into patreon.com, you are given credit/debit card & paypal.com option.
in order use SBI card, it need to be Visa/Mastercard international and need to enable international transaction.
Enable transaction with SBI debit card is possible with sending sms or via Internet banking.
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With choosing Paypal option, you MAY show Internet banking to pay. (This is I am not checked yet)
@noorul @CharismaticSal_ debit cards should work . Not internet banking .
Like I mention before, not all debit card work for internationally.
#RBI restrict.
stupidly, there is even 2 system. When enabling International transaction for debit card, 1st they enable international ATM transactions, than need to request for international P.O.S (point of sale) again with some banks.
This concern to me earlier but not sure whom to turn to.
that someone need not be single person. May be a group of volunteers.
I don't know much of taxation. actually.
I've proposed something which can aid in long run.
noorul (@[email protected])
I urge all to consider your own instance setup and get home there permanently. With your own policy, rules and moderation. We want many small communities for sustainability and many values. #India #Help @[email protected]
Salma,
I been there,
so check my earlier post regarding donation:
noorul (@[email protected])
In my opinion, raise fund among you all, via NEFT, IMPS, UPI, mobile wallet. Then it is better to send to abroad. Reasons, a few challenges ahead. International donation website asks for international visa/master card. Not all our cards are enabled international payment 2), our banks setup a way for OTP for second verification when using credit/card. International uses differenent method for 2nd authenication. 3) patreon.com is donating is regular basic. Once setup, donation required at interval. For now, have some trust, collect donation domestically and send internationally. @[email protected]
@noorul Thank you!
but before you give up, would be charm enough to give a try.
* Just visit https://www.patreon.com/mastodon
* select ur amount,
* signup a Patreon account
* enter your debit card detail
and try making payment.
let us know here the result.
@noorul this wud be great. Someone collect money from all the mastodon users in India and donate the raised fund to patreon.com. This seems feasible!
Indian government doesn't like outbound fund from India.
It "protects" internal resources ;)
By the way, I use primarily #SBI debit card linked with Paypal for a few International merchants.
Though need to enable international transaction which I enable via Internet banking.
here is screenshot of SBI page to enable International transaction
@noorul @ravichso @CharismaticSal_ From what I know, it's actually visa and mastercard . I have seen some places where one works, at some places, the other. At the end of the day, the bank is just the branding, the real service provider are these guys.
Bro, I've first hand information,
I have made numerous calling when I have send fund to servers.
Whatever, I have shared is my own experience which I had 1-2 years.
maybe things update.
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you know something, when you may payment with cards online, you have enter OTP sent your mobile/Email,
this didn't work with Google developer payment.
It took me 1 week to make several calls to bank branch, HO, research online, made calls to Google, US.
Google US front desk can't solve the issue, I up raise to tech team to get explanation.
Google requires 2 authentication. 1 is CCV , 2nd is "3D verification".
with Indian banks, not all banks have 3D verifitcation but with OTP.
@noorul I never had to do anything with google developer, have stayed away from them.
Oh, I use it for distributing #Android apps on Google play.
Other than that, I don't use Google product.
@noorul I do use gmail, it's just I'm too lazy and don't really wanna set up my own mail server and stuff, too much work and too much work on the security front then as well. One of the reasons I didn't comment when you were talking about ipv4/6 stack.
haha,
Okay, setting up and running Mail suite is painful.
It is not meant for just 1 admin.
Greatly, I use #Yunohost to host mail Web apps, Email server with just click of button.
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come on, bro.
Gmail ???
At least use Protonmail, or Riseup.net
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