sevvie Rose 🈲Sep 6, 2018
@puffinux Hm. Looks fun.

Programs I use with my #linux (#archlinux) machines:

#GNOME3 (display mgr)
#Brave & #FirefoxNightly (browser, image viewer)
#LibreOffice (office)
#Riot (chat)
#nvim (editor)
#terminator (term emulator)
#tmux (term multiplexer)
#mutt (email)
#GIMP (image editor)
Puffinux (@[email protected])

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Show threadTheOuterLinux ✅Sep 6, 2018

@sevvie @[email protected] GNOME3....?! On an Arch machine?! WHAT MADNESS IS THIS! Have ye no i3 fealty?!

#MXLinux (Linux distro)
#XFCE (desktop environment)
#Palemoon (browser)
#xviewer (image viewer)
#LibreOffice (office)
#irssi or a #tox client (chat)
#nano (because I'm a sane person)
#xfce4-terminal (term emulator)
#tmux (term multiplexer)
#alpine or #Thunderbird (email)
#GIMP, #Krita, #MyPaint, or #GrafX2 for image editing/painting

Show threadDanilo SpinellaSep 6, 2018

@TheOuterLinux

I think that using Tox is crazier though xD

Show threadTheOuterLinux ✅Sep 6, 2018
@danyspin97 I don't know. Most too clients support audio, video, text, and file sharing, as well as group messages. It uses a server temporarily to connect people as encrypted peer-to-peer. If you're worried about the IP part, you'd could just use a VPN or Tor. There's no signup either. You have a portable profile that kind of just knows how to talk to the relay servers. There are clients for almost a all systems, including mobile. Free and open source. Sounds good to me.
Show threadDanilo SpinellaSep 6, 2018

@TheOuterLinux

Yea, it did sound good to me too. Then some other users point me out to an issue on tox repository.

They're dumb asses, they don't know a thing about security, yet they don't accept critics and suggestions.

I've never used tox again.

https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426

Tox Handshake Vulnerable to KCI · Issue #426 · TokTok/c-toxcore

Hello, I found this source code confusingly written (and downright scary at times) and the specification woefully underspecified and inexplicit, so it's entirely possible my understanding of the ha...

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Show threadTheOuterLinux ✅Sep 6, 2018
@danyspin97 Well, I like it and definitely trust it more than Skype or even Signal. Microsoft decides to talk to Whisper/Signal people about using their software in Skype and then shortly afterwards, Signal gets a $50M donation from Facebook. They're all compromised to some degree. They're all a mess, be it security or legal stuff, but at least Tox is a fairly unknown one.
Show threadStrypeySep 20, 2018
@TheOuterLinux @danyspin97 have you tried #Wire and #Ring? Wire relies on a centralized server, but Ring is #P2P (like #Tox). They're both #FreeCode and both work pretty well for text chat, one-to-one voice calls (although I had persistent echo on Ring the one time I've tesed it so far). I've also tested file-transfer and image sharing on Wire, which work fine. Haven't test conference calling or video chat on either yet.
Show threadDanilo SpinellaSep 20, 2018

@strypey @TheOuterLinux

Wire is centralized and is really similar to Telegram in design (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't used it).

#Ring is really interesting, I've downloaded it but I've never tried it.

In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM.

Show threadStrypeySep 20, 2018

@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux
> In the end #Matrix still seems the most promising one to me, due to the presence of both a public community and a IM.

#Matrix is client/server, so quite a different beast from #Tox / #Ring, which are serverless. Matrix seems like a good candidate for replacing both #IRC and #Slack, given that it's federated by default (unlike IRC which needs a bunch of extra stuff to support federation), and it's an open protocol (unlike Slack which is a #DataFarm).

Show threadDanilo Spinella

@strypey @TheOuterLinux

It could replace both #IRC and #XMPP. And it's only a single application. That's a blowing thing for me. Have you read "Banquets and Barbecues" on GNOME blog about Matrix client?

https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2018/05/16/banquets-and-barbecues/

Banquets and Barbecues

tl;dr: We're splitting up Fractal into two separate apps: One to replace IRC, the other to replace Telegram. This is an in-depth post on the thinking behind the split of the Fractal app, which was decided at the hackfest in Strasbourg last week. For more information about the hackfest, have a look at my other...

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Show threadStrypeySep 20, 2018

@danyspin97 @TheOuterLinux just reading it now.
> tl;dr: We’re splitting up Fractal into two separate apps: One to replace IRC, the other to replace Telegram.

OK, now you've got my attention ...