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On Sept 22, Professor Michael Mann spoke aboard the Green Pioneer (the world’s first ammonia-powered vessel) for Reality Check: Moving From Crisis to Hope, and later introduced Joseph Romm at the Penn Club of NY for a talk on climate solutions.

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2 weeks ago, #Rahmstorf and Michael Oppenheimer were asked a few questions on stage by David Wallace-Wells .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ1GVMWzWIE

In the drawers in my mind, David sits in the rich_doomer category, someone who warmly wallows in fearporn. I'm probably wrong, tho. It's just the drawers that I have in my mind. Constantly changing.

Michael? Never heard of the guy. Apparently, he shaped the connection science_politics in US (and allied?) regarding climate and acid rain.
Seeing where US went since climate became an issue (nowhere), Michael probably is/was an anti-alarmist, in bed with economists of the Nordhaus persuasion.

I hadn't looked him up on Wiki before watching.

What made me crabby was his argument that one shouldn't focus on tipping points at all. And then quotes from a study from 3 years ago which put AMOC tipping at 1.5 to 8°C warming – 
to illustrate how irrelevant we should deem it. (Rahmstorf put the record straight – before Michael got the mic.)

After telling us how irrelevant AMOC tipping is due to its uncertainty – "How can any politician hang his hat on such uncertainties, I ask?" –
M. then says, we should pour all our money and attention in adaptation. And emission reduction, as an afterthought.

Only when I let go of my anger at this old white guy, I can see how he has a point. Our societal infrastructure and ofc also the hardware is not ready to receive the mounting and compounding climate extremes without getting seriously destabilised.

Nothing has been done before Greta came along. Nothing.

But how he presents his arguments – and how he thinks wrt tipping elements (even denies that most of the 16 defined elements were such) – is outrageous.

And now that I skim-read the first paragraph in his Wiki article, I can see why we are where we are, if this guy shaped the interface science_politics in the US, in G7 and OECD.

That nothing has been done this far is his success story. And now he prioritizes adaptation.

And ignores the illogic in his assessment: that there is up to now, and thanks to him, no yardstick for what level of #climatechange we should adapt to. Let alone what we should do regarding adaption for a looming AMOC tipping.

Rahmstorf gets the mic again at the end and points that one out: do you adapt to a warming world or do you adapt to an AMOC tipping?

If AMOC tips, the Southern hemisphere warms by an additional 1 - 2C. That means on land 2 to 4C on top of what's in the pipeline.

Grmpf.
I'd really like to know why David or the NYT invited Michael for this event. If they wanted to show us how badly Michael shaped science_politics – mission accomplished. But this interpretation is left to the viewer. And I very much doubt that people dare to criticise such an old climate scientist. So they're left with: @rahmstorf is an alarmist and Michael is the go-to person who really gets it all.
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Can we see any attack from #Perl @PERL_eco ?

New York Climate Week will be in September, and Perl.eco is going to announce a Governance partnership.

Let's see!

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