🎉🚀 Behold: #Chaosnet, the 1975 cutting-edge tech that’s basically just computers yelling at each other without a referee. MIT’s #AI Lab decided to sprinkle some chaos on their Lisp Machines, probably because who needs organization when you can have pandemonium? 🤖💥 Remember, it's not a bug, it's a feature... or maybe just a really old network. 🙃
https://tumbleweed.nu/r/lm-3/uv/amber.html #MIT #LispMachines #TechHistory #Pandemonium #HackerNews #ngated
Chaosnet

Chaosnet local area network protocol documentation. The master file is at https://github.com/Chaosnet/amber.

@screwlisp

You can pick up the document 'Signalling and Handling Conditions' from this index page:

http://nhplace.com/kent/ZL/

It was longer than I thought it would be, but I think you'll find it interesting to see what the Zetalisp condition system (which inspired the Common Lisp condition system) looked like.

In spirit, it was much the same. The biggest differences are:

* The CL system has 'active' restarts, where the ZL system had a passive thing where you returned a value to the case context and hoped that it would do the thing you wanted. It felt quite a bit more error-prone (if you'll pardon the reuse of 'error' here, maybe I should say 'mistake-prone').

* The ZL condition system offers a lot of really low-level stuff that did not seem proper for CL.

* The set of operations offered in ZL was richer, but also a lot more complicated, I thought, and I worried people would not really see what it was trying to do.

* Obviously, the ZL system was based on Flavors, not CLOS, and made reference to a lot of LispM-specific packages.

* The document was published in January, 1983 and identifies itself as part of Symbolics Release 4.0.

There are other differences as well.

#Zetalisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #Symbolics #LispM
#ConditionHandling #ConditionSystem #ErrorSystem #ErrorHandling #CommonLisp #CL #Flavors #CLOS #History #ComputerHistory
#InternetArchive #Bitsavers

The always awesome Asianometry channel covered Lisp, early AI, and the Lisp Machines earlier this year:

“A Cult AI Computer’s Boom And Bust”, Asianometry (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sV7C6Ezl35A).

#Video #Asianometry #Lisp #AI #LispMachines #Symbolics #YouTube

A Cult AI Computer’s Boom and Bust

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The lost cause of the Lisp machines

I am just really bored by Lisp Machine romantics at this point: they should go away. I expect they never will....

Ah, Lisp machines—the hipsters of computing, forever stuck in 1983, wearing retro rose-tinted glasses 👓. Watching these romantics cling to tech fossils is like witnessing earnest historians fanboy over Betamax tapes 📼. Someone tell them the 90s called and wants its outdated tech back. 😂
https://www.tfeb.org/fragments/2025/11/18/the-lost-cause-of-the-lisp-machines/ #LispMachines #RetroTech #TechFossils #ComputingHistory #90sNostalgia #HackerNews #ngated
The lost cause of the Lisp machines

I am just really bored by Lisp Machine romantics at this point: they should go away. I expect they never will....

The lost cause of the Lisp machines

I am just really bored by Lisp Machine romantics at this point: they should go away. I expect they never will....

@heracles Does #emacs count? Or #lisp? Not really a list of software but in a lot of ways idiosyncratic and exceptional I guess, and can make you feel differently about computers. And then you discover that there were #lispmachines at some point (https://interlisp.org/) and you just get deeper and deeper into the rabbithole :)
Medley Interlisp Project

The Medley Interlisp Project a retrofuturistic software system What did we leave behind on the path to developing today's computer systems? Could there be lessons for the future of computing hidden in the past? Enter the Medley software environment to explore these questions.

The Medley Interlisp Project
Refurb weekend: the Symbolics MacIvory Lisp machine I have hated

Every collector has that machine, the machine they sunk so much time and, often, money into that they would have defenestrated it years ago...

"The mix-in revolution: How an ice cream innovator in Somerville influenced Lisp pioneers at the MIT AI Lab­—and made a lasting mark on programming."

https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/02/25/1111238/the-mix-in-revolution/

#MIT #Lisp #LispMachine #LispMachines #OOP #ObjectOrientedProgramming #Flavors #Symbolics #ComputingHistory #ComputerHistory

The mix-in revolution

How an ice cream innovator in Somerville influenced Lisp pioneers at the MIT AI Lab­—and made a lasting mark on programming.

MIT Technology Review