Jerry on PieFedPleased to see people using Mobilizon instead of Facebook Events
Jerry on MastodonAbout 2 months ago, I set up a #Mobilizon server to give people a decentralized, ActivityPub connected, alternative to #FacebookEvents, https://my-group.events
It really pleases me to see that people are discovering it and using it to manage events instead of using big-tech owned centralized corporate controlled solutions.
Jerry on FriendicaYes, you can also say goodbye to Facebook Events!
https://my-place.social/display/e599373b-6867-a7df-fc9b-998947160172
Today, I brought up another server to help people leave the #Metaverse and join the #Fediverse. I created a #Mobilizon server, https://my-group.events, which is a decentralized replacement for #Facebook Events.
You can use Mobilizon to create and organize your own events via a group page. Using it, you can publish out events to members, allow for discussions, collaborate, and share resources. I presume, just like you would with Facebook Events, which I never used.
You can also search for events that you can add to your own agenda.
You can have different profiles for different "you". Like a professional profile and one for your personal life.
Each server federates with other Mobilizon servers via an opt-in mechanism. I wish federating were automatic, though. I'm not a fan of opt-in federation. An Admin has to request a connection to another Mobilizon server, and it has to approve. Then public events become shared between them when approved.
People on Mastodon can follow Mobilizon groups and see published information. I don't know how well it works with other Fediverse applications.
I have not done a thing yet with the server. I have no groups and no events. But, if you would like to try using it and let me know how it works for you, it would be great. If there is another Mobilizon server you'd like me to federate with, I'll be happy to request it so you can see their public events.
There are still things I need to do on the server next week, like set up database backups and monitoring. But, the server appears useable.
You can create an account by going to https://my-group.events and you can start organizing events!
If anyone knows more about Mobilizon, please add to the discussion.
More information here: https://docs.joinmobilizon.org/use/ and https://joinmobilizon.org/en/
Jerry
Jupiter Rowland@Definitely Doc D @Different Drummer I guess the majority of Mastodon users still thinks the Fediverse equals Mastodon, although their number may be shrinking.
Others may think that Friendica has only just been created because the Fediverse needed a Facebook equivalent. Little do they know that Friendica is the oldest still existing Fediverse server application, launched in July, 2010. And Friendica's own creator has made a whole number of forks and forks of forks of Friendica over all these years.
This means that Friendica is not the only Facebook equivalent in the Fediverse, nor is it the most powerful piece of server software in the Fediverse.
For starters, there is also something officially nameless and brandless and colloquially named (streams) after its code repository. It's from late 2021, and it's a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of a fork of Friendica.
It's more advanced than Friendica, it offers more control over permissions than Friendica, but it doesn't quite offer Friendica's connection options (no diaspora*, no OStatus, no Bluesky, no Tumblr, no WordPress crossposter, no LiveJournal crossposter, no XMPP-compatible chat...), and it doesn't offer multiple profiles per channel. But it does offer multiple separate channels (identities) per account (login), and it offers nomadic identity.
Like Friendica, it offers groups at various levels of public vs private. The permissions system makes it possible to appoint additional admins as moderators for groups.
Its learning curve is another bit steeper than Friendica's, and Friendica's learning curve is already steeper than Mastodon's.
Don't go looking for instance lists. (streams) is intentionally kept away from instance list sites, and it intentionally doesn't send any statistics either. There are currently only two public, open-registration instances: Rumbly in the USA and Nomád in Hungary with a German admin who also speaks English.
Also, there are no phone apps for (streams), and it doesn't work with Mastodon apps. Your only options are the Web interface in a browser of the Web interface as a progressive Web app.
And the absolute feature monster in the Fediverse is Hubzilla from 2015 which emerged from a Friendica fork from 2012. It offers some of Friendica's connection options, but everything that isn't Hubzilla's own Zot6, even ActivityPub, is optional and off by default for new channels. Hubzilla is where I am.
Like (streams) which is a Hubzilla descendant, Hubzilla offers multiple channels (identities) per account and nomadic identity (Hubzilla actually introduced nomadic identity), but it also offers multiple profiles (views of your identity) per channel like Friendica offers multiple profiles per account.
Hubzilla offers forums similar to the groups on (streams) with similar privacy and moderation options.
Hubzilla is actually more of a "decentralised social CMS" than a purist social networking application. It offers a whole lot of optional features which Friendica and (streams) don't have such as articles (an alternative way for blog posts that doesn't federate through the Fediverse), wikis and webpages. In fact, Hubzilla's own official website is built on a Hubzilla channel.
However, Hubzilla's learning curve is even steeper than (streams)'. And, again, don't ask for a phone app. There's only the browser and installing it as a PWA.
Public, open-registration Hubzilla hubs can be looked up on all known instance lists.
@adrienandrem: Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) also offer a standards-compatible event calendar. At least Hubzilla and (streams) even offer the option to let other Hubzilla and (streams) channels administer your channel. This means you can create a channel only for a collaborative event calendar, connect it to certain trustworthy Hubzilla/(streams) users and give them administration permission on the calendar channel. This makes it possible for them to edit all calendars on the channel.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #FacebookEvents #FacebookGroups #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)
Others may think that Friendica has only just been created because the Fediverse needed a Facebook equivalent. Little do they know that Friendica is the oldest still existing Fediverse server application, launched in July, 2010. And Friendica's own creator has made a whole number of forks and forks of forks of Friendica over all these years.
This means that Friendica is not the only Facebook equivalent in the Fediverse, nor is it the most powerful piece of server software in the Fediverse.
For starters, there is also something officially nameless and brandless and colloquially named (streams) after its code repository. It's from late 2021, and it's a fork of a fork of three forks of a fork (of a fork?) of a fork of Friendica.
It's more advanced than Friendica, it offers more control over permissions than Friendica, but it doesn't quite offer Friendica's connection options (no diaspora*, no OStatus, no Bluesky, no Tumblr, no WordPress crossposter, no LiveJournal crossposter, no XMPP-compatible chat...), and it doesn't offer multiple profiles per channel. But it does offer multiple separate channels (identities) per account (login), and it offers nomadic identity.
Like Friendica, it offers groups at various levels of public vs private. The permissions system makes it possible to appoint additional admins as moderators for groups.
Its learning curve is another bit steeper than Friendica's, and Friendica's learning curve is already steeper than Mastodon's.
Don't go looking for instance lists. (streams) is intentionally kept away from instance list sites, and it intentionally doesn't send any statistics either. There are currently only two public, open-registration instances: Rumbly in the USA and Nomád in Hungary with a German admin who also speaks English.
Also, there are no phone apps for (streams), and it doesn't work with Mastodon apps. Your only options are the Web interface in a browser of the Web interface as a progressive Web app.
And the absolute feature monster in the Fediverse is Hubzilla from 2015 which emerged from a Friendica fork from 2012. It offers some of Friendica's connection options, but everything that isn't Hubzilla's own Zot6, even ActivityPub, is optional and off by default for new channels. Hubzilla is where I am.
Like (streams) which is a Hubzilla descendant, Hubzilla offers multiple channels (identities) per account and nomadic identity (Hubzilla actually introduced nomadic identity), but it also offers multiple profiles (views of your identity) per channel like Friendica offers multiple profiles per account.
Hubzilla offers forums similar to the groups on (streams) with similar privacy and moderation options.
Hubzilla is actually more of a "decentralised social CMS" than a purist social networking application. It offers a whole lot of optional features which Friendica and (streams) don't have such as articles (an alternative way for blog posts that doesn't federate through the Fediverse), wikis and webpages. In fact, Hubzilla's own official website is built on a Hubzilla channel.
However, Hubzilla's learning curve is even steeper than (streams)'. And, again, don't ask for a phone app. There's only the browser and installing it as a PWA.
Public, open-registration Hubzilla hubs can be looked up on all known instance lists.
@adrienandrem: Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) also offer a standards-compatible event calendar. At least Hubzilla and (streams) even offer the option to let other Hubzilla and (streams) channels administer your channel. This means you can create a channel only for a collaborative event calendar, connect it to certain trustworthy Hubzilla/(streams) users and give them administration permission on the calendar channel. This makes it possible for them to edit all calendars on the channel.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookAlternative #FacebookEvents #FacebookGroups #Fediverse #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)
@Dan Gillmor
A Friendica group, a Hubzilla forum or a (streams) group can also include an event calendar. But hardly any places in the Fediverse other than Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) support events; Mastodon doesn't.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookGroups #FacebookEvents #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Threadiverse #Lemmy #Mbin #PieFed
- Move everyone to somewhere in the Fediverse and set up a public group/forum on Friendica, Hubzilla or (streams).
- Move everyone to Friendica, Hubzilla or (streams) and set up a private group/forum on Friendica, Hubzilla or (streams).
This is the closest to Facebook you can get. - Move everyone to the Threadiverse (Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed) and set up a public Lemmy community, Mbin magazine or PieFed community.
This is more like Reddit.
A Friendica group, a Hubzilla forum or a (streams) group can also include an event calendar. But hardly any places in the Fediverse other than Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams) support events; Mastodon doesn't.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookGroups #FacebookEvents #FacebookAlternative #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Threadiverse #Lemmy #Mbin #PieFed
@Lee 🌏 Messenger: AFAIK, the Facebook Messenger is XMPP, formerly known as Jabber, only defederated. I don't think they've completely re-invented the wheel when they separated the Facebook Messenger from the rest of XMPP.
So you don't need to develop something new, nor do you need to shoehorn an instant messaging system onto ActivityPub if there are two free, decentralised protocols that are much better for instant messaging readily available: XMPP and Matrix. Or if you're talking in terms of mobile apps, that's Conversations for Android and Monal IM for iOS (XMPP) and Element for both Android and iOS (Matrix).
As for the rest, I think it's important to know that Friendica itself was designed as a Facebook replacement that does everything that Facebook does and that halfway makes sense, only better. Hubzilla is a fork (of a fork?) of Friendica. (streams) is a fork of a fork of a fork... of Hubzilla.
Play games: Games can be added to Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams), and this has actually been done in the past.
Groups: Nothing does them better than (streams) with Hubzilla and Friendica closely behind.
If you want something separate and specialised, look at the Threadiverse: Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks etc. It's all designed to replace Reddit and Hacker News rather than Facebook Groups, but still.
Events: Friendica and Hubzilla have calendars implemented which can also send events to connections that understand events.
If you want something stand-alone, Mobilizon and Gancio.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookMessenger #FacebookGroups #FacebookEvents #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Threadiverse #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #Sublinks #Mobilizon #Gancio #XMPP #Jabber #Matrix
So you don't need to develop something new, nor do you need to shoehorn an instant messaging system onto ActivityPub if there are two free, decentralised protocols that are much better for instant messaging readily available: XMPP and Matrix. Or if you're talking in terms of mobile apps, that's Conversations for Android and Monal IM for iOS (XMPP) and Element for both Android and iOS (Matrix).
As for the rest, I think it's important to know that Friendica itself was designed as a Facebook replacement that does everything that Facebook does and that halfway makes sense, only better. Hubzilla is a fork (of a fork?) of Friendica. (streams) is a fork of a fork of a fork... of Hubzilla.
Play games: Games can be added to Friendica, Hubzilla and (streams), and this has actually been done in the past.
Groups: Nothing does them better than (streams) with Hubzilla and Friendica closely behind.
If you want something separate and specialised, look at the Threadiverse: Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks etc. It's all designed to replace Reddit and Hacker News rather than Facebook Groups, but still.
Events: Friendica and Hubzilla have calendars implemented which can also send events to connections that understand events.
If you want something stand-alone, Mobilizon and Gancio.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Facebook #FacebookMessenger #FacebookGroups #FacebookEvents #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams) #Threadiverse #Lemmy #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #Sublinks #Mobilizon #Gancio #XMPP #Jabber #Matrix
David ClubbYou heard it here first (maybe ha!) - #Mobilizon has just released v3.0.
Think #facebookEvents 🤢 #eventbrite 🤮 but #openSource
https://framablog.org/2022/11/08/mobilizon-v3-find-events-and-groups-throughout-the-fediverse/
Have tried v2.0 several times without success; this update means it's time to try again!
Mobilizon v3 : Find events and groups throughout the fediverse !
Mobilizon is the alternative we have been developing since 2019 so that everyone can emancipate their events and groups from Facebook. Except, unlike Facebook, Mobilizon is not a single platform. It is a software that specialists can install on a server to create multiple events and groups platforms (called « instances »), which can be...
FediTips has moved!Mobilizon is the Fediverse's free open source federated alternative to Facebook Events. You can find out more and how to get started at:
It uses the same ActivityPub federation standard as Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse (though it does not yet federate with Masto).
#FediTips #Fediverse #Mobilizon #FacebookEvents #Alternatives
Mobilizon.it 
@amreo ottimo! aggiunto giusto ora nel repository di mobilizon:
https://gitea.it/Mobilizon/app-facebook-event-scraper
dovrebbe poter aiutare ad aggiungere eventi con l'app di mobilizon anche se non è molto aggiornata:
https://gitea.it/Mobilizon/mobilizon-android-app
questo completa il quadro di app utili, avevamo già trovato l'app per convertire gli eventi facebook per iCal su iphone/ios qui:
https://gitea.it/Mobilizon/Facebook-Events-iCal-Converter
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#mobilizon #app #android #ios #iphone #eventi #facebookevents #ical
