@danabra.mov This is a great technical write-up. But it lives in a nerd bubble that ignores the reality of the world out there. In the end, protocols don’t matter - they’re only tools that can be used in different ways. Much more important are stakeholder interests and intentions, resulting strategies, and how they play out within the reality of network effects.

https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

#decentralization #decentralizationwashing #atproto #activitypub #bluesky #fediverse #mastodon

@jay.bsky.team

Leave to where? Which alternative?

https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/

#decentralization
#decentralizationwashing

@[email protected] @Gargron @stinerman @ikuturso @glyph

Not really.

See the following thread for details:

https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/115129998343856795

#mastodon #bluesky #decentralization #decentralizationwashing

@cloudhunter.co.uk @mathiastck @lwflouisa @[email protected] @Gargron

But you are now talking about combining your PDS with an alt client. Anyway, I agree of course that there are technical means of evading that block. But that's besides the point. What I consider as #decentralizationwashing is that while some arguments are technically true, in practice basically all MIssissippi users are blocked.

@[email protected] @Gargron @stinerman @ikuturso @glyph

Unlike #bluesky, #mastodon is not blocked centrally in Mississippi.

Glad to hear it.

It wouldn't have been technically possible anyway, since #mastodon is decentralized.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/29/mastodon-says-it-doesnt-have-the-means-to-comply-with-age-verification-laws/

(Posting reply https://mastodon.social/@folkerschamel/115113652757352708, which wasn't bridged, again, but this time as reply to myself to see if bridging is working then.)

#decentralization #activitypub #atproto #decentralizationwashing

@cloudhunter.co.uk @mathiastck @lwflouisa @[email protected] @Gargron

When still using the #bluesky app view, then an alt client won't help. But aynway, my main point is that such claims are #decentralizationwashing in my view: Such technical debates are completely disconnected from the real world, because basically nobody is using such tools anyway, and in practice #bluesky centrally blocked Mississippi - as they are saying themselves in the original post.

@pluralistic @canrith6696 @[email protected] @Gargron @stinerman @ikuturso @glyph

"Bluesky is unavailable in Mississippi right now" as by the company #bluesky Social, PB itself. See the original post of this thread.

Plain, simple, and correct.

Your post is what I mean by #decentralizationwashing: Claiming theoretical #decentralization, but without real-world relevance. Basically nobody is using an own Personal Data Servers or alt client. And wouldn't evade the block anyway.