Show threadDimly Lit CornersJan 30

@orsinium I know, they stole email from us claiming to combat spam and somehow there is still spam

==Email==

Maybe I only need to receive email over SMTP.

Otherwise email transfer using NNCP with known-trusted-hosts of friends and family?

Perhaps #FOAF even?

Perhaps as part of NNCPNET?

Maybe (text-only) #USENET also via NNCP?

Edit: bc I just found #NNCP and #NNCPNET and think this could be a solution

==Webdev==

I can use #RubyOnRails as needed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Show threadJohn GoerzenJan 12

@karen With #NNCP, we break the tyranny of online with delay-tolerant networking. https://www.complete.org/nncp/ The new #NNCPNET is an email network running atop it -- with bridges to the public Internet. https://salsa.debian.org/jgoerzen/docker-nncpnet-mailnode/-/wikis/home

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NNCP

What is NNCP? NNCP lets you securely send files, or request remote execution, between systems. It uses asynchronous communication, so the source and destination need never be online simultaneously. NNCP can route requests via intermediate devices – other NNCP nodes, USB sticks, tapes, radios, phones, cloud services, whatever – leading to a network that is highly resilient and flexible. NNCP makes it much easier to communicate with devices that lack Internet connectivity, or have poor Internet.

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Show threadJohn GoerzenSep 25, 2025

@tidux This is great! #nncpnet is intentionally a few programs and scripts that work with Unix pipes. The reason for the Docker container was to make it easy for people to play with, but it is my explicit goal that it should be, basically, standard. That is, can plug in anywhere. A couple little programs to verify headers and a little nodelist processing and there you go.

Please tag me when you have something ready to use - I'd love to give it a try!

TiduxSep 25, 2025
I'm working on a UBlue based OS image with Emacs, git-email support, and #nncpnet handling. I'll probably use the new single binary NNCP build and Postfix (I'm not a fan of Debian-Exim's configs) but steal from the original nncpnet-docker's cron+systemd+templating. Keeping it all native to the OS avoids container UID/name sync issues, filesystem mount issues, etc. The old container would probably be ok with "podman run --systemd=always -v /persist:whatever" but eh.
Show threadJohn GoerzenAug 5, 2025
This is a great article by #LWN @lwn about #NNCPNET, which uses #NNCP to form an email network that lets you run real mail servers (even with an Internet bridge) as easily as it used to be! https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1031208/2335d9c8b8eb28c5/
The NNCPNET email network

Running a modern mail server is a complicated business. In part, this complication is caused [...]

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Soliman HindyJun 7, 2025
Does somebody run an #NNCPNET node?
I'm reading this article: https://salsa.debian.org/jgoerzen/docker-nncpnet-mailnode/-/wikis/home and I'm wondering if I will try it soon.
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John GoerzenApr 27, 2025

My new blog post, Memoirs of the Early #Internet, unearths a few relics of the early Internet and #UUCP days from some obscure sites.

https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10792-memoirs-of-the-early-internet

Researching cool things a person can do with #asynchronous #email over #NNCP (#NNCPNET) led me down that path. So while you're there, you can also check out the post about the NNCPNET Internet email gateway. https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10783-nncpnet-can-optionally-exchange-internet-email

John GoerzenApr 10, 2025
My blog post on #NNCPNET, the #email network atop #NNCP : https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10768-announcing-the-nncpnet-email-network
Show threadJohn GoerzenApr 10, 2025

@jeremiah_ @elb #NNCPNET, the new #NNCP-based email network, now has a bidirectional, opt-in, Internet #email bridge! https://salsa.debian.org/jgoerzen/docker-nncpnet-mailnode/-/wikis/bridge/intro

This gates Internet email to/from NNCP. The bridge is off by default. It is a full participant in #SPF, #DKIM, #DMARC, and #TLS in both directions.

Yes, now you can get Internet email straight to your #RaspberryPi ! (And even without this, your Pis can email each other!)

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Show threadJohn GoerzenApr 4, 2025

@elb I'm now ready to announce #NNCPNET, the #NNCP-based email network. https://salsa.debian.org/jgoerzen/docker-nncpnet-mailnode/-/wikis/home

It is open to all. It can route email across the Internet or USB stick. You can run a full, real mail server without a public IP, port forwarding, or even Internet access. It's a friend-of-a-friend network; mail delivery is automatic, but adding people is done by humans.

It uses all the tools that you're used to with Internet email, but is the opposite of it. Enjoy!

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