In this episode, Thomas discusses the history and complexity of Two-Spirit identities.
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1 A widely used Two-Spirit flag
2 7. Poster for Bay Area Two-Spirit powwow, 2017
3 Poster for Beaver Hills Two-Spirit powwow, 2023
4 The cover of Not Vanishing by Chrystos (Menominee)
5 Cover art for Orchestral Powwow by Cris Derksen (Cree)
6 The cover of Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time, a collection of Two-Spirit sci-fi
7 Miss Chief Eagle Testikle, Kent Monkman (Cree)
8 Osh-Tisch (Crow)
9 We'wha (Zuni)
10 The cover of Full-Metal Indigiqueer by Joshua Whitehead (Oji-Cree)

Sources:
Chrystos. Not Vanishing. Vancouver: Press Gang Publishing, 1988. Driskill, Qwo-Li. Asegi Stories. Cherokee

Queer and Two Spirit Memory. Tucson: University of Arizona Press, 2016. Driskill, Qwo-Li, Chris Finley, Brian JosephGilley, and Scott Lauria Morgensen, eds.

Queer Indigenous Studies. Critical Interventions in Theory, Politics, and Literature. Tucson: University of Arizona Press, 2011. Driskill, Qwo-Li, Daniel Heath Justice, Deborah Miranda, and Lisa Tatonetti, eds.

Sovereign Erotics. A collection of Two-Spirit Literature. Tucson: University of Arizona Press, 2011. Jacobs, Sue-Ellen, Wesley Thomas, and Sabine Lang, eds.

Two-Spirit People. Native American Gender Identity, Sexuality, and Spirituality. Champaign: University of IllinoisPress, 1997.

Roscoe, Will. Changing Ones: Third and Fourth Genders in Native North America. London: Macmillan, 1998. Sigal, Pete, ed.

Infamous Desire. Male Homosexuality in Colonial Latin America. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2003.

Smith, Merril, ed. Sex and Sexuality in Early America. NewYork: New York University Press, 1998.

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This is an image of #SylviaRivera one of the mothers of the modern #transgenderrights movement. This moment is taken from a famous speech that she gave in 1973, and we think it is as relevant today as it was back then.

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In this episode, Megan shares the stories of lesbian action during the #AIDScrisis of the 1980s and 1990s, as well as her own experience growing up in the shadow of #AIDS .

CW: this episode mentions homophobia as well as death and dying of AIDS, please take care while listening

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2 San Diego Blood Sisters
3 Blood drive organized by the San Diego Blood Sisters
4 blood drive
5 #MarcyFraser
6 Lisa Power (left)
7 #LisaPower
8 #JeanCarlomusto
9 image from an #ActUp die-in
10 #RyanWhite

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Did you know that many of the rules against trans gender markers come from an infamous legal battle involving a #trans Scottish nobleman, Sir #EwanForbes , 11th Baronet , general practitioner and expert in Scottish heritage? Learn all about one of the most significant court cases that led us to where we are today when it comes to changing to a chosen name or legal name change.

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2 Ewan as a child with ponies
3 young Ewan
4 young Ewan
5 side by side: young Ewan with a dog and older Ewan with a dog
6 #CraigivarCastle
7 Ewan and Isabella on their wedding day
8 Mrs and Mr Forbes
9 newspaper about court case
10 #ZoePlaydon + book cover #TheHiddenCaseofEwanForbes

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Sources:

Forbes, Ewan. The Aul' Days. Aberdeen: Aberdeen University Press, 1984.

Playden, Zoe. (2021). The Hidden Case of Ewan Forbes: And the Unwritten History of the Trans Experience. Scribner/Bloomsbury Publishing.

Strudwick, Patrick. "The Secret Court Case 50 Years Ago That Has Robbed Trans People of Their Rights Ever Since." The I Paper. 10.11.21. ⁠http://www.inews.o.uk⁠.

In the final episode of our three part deep-dive into thrill killers, #NathanLeopold and #RichardLoeb we learn about their lives in prison and beyond.

CW: this series includes mention of violence, murder, rape and other things listeners may find disturbing. Please take care while listening.

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images:

*Special thanks once again to #ErikRebain from whom all these images were sourced*

1 postcard of Stateville
2 Leopold and Loeb meeting again in 1927
3 Loeb crime scene
4 Leopold demonstrating malaria research practice
5 Paul
6 Leopold in his cell 1 (Life magazine)
7 Leopold in his cell 2 (Life magazine)
8 Leopold released from prison
9 Trudy and Leopold
10 Nathan Leopold the year of his death in 1971

Sources:

Baatz, Simon. For the Thrill of It: Leopold, Loeb and the Murder That Shocked Chicago. HarperCollins. October 13, 2009.

Higdon, Hal. The Leopold and Loeb: The Crime of the Century.Chicago. University of Illinois Press. 1995, 1999 & 2010.

Fass, Paula S. Kidnapped: Child Abduction in America. OxfordUniversity Press. November 20, 1997.

Rebain, Erik. Arrested Adolescence: The Secret Life of NathanLeopold. Rowan & Littlefield Publishers. April 15, 2023.

and:

Crimes of the Centuries with Amber Hunt. S1Ep2: Leopold & Loeb: Jazz Age Killers.

Bad Gays. Episode 9: Leopold and Loeb. May 14, 2019.

“Deadly Alliance: Leopold & Loeb – A Chicago Stories Documentary.” YouTube, uploaded by WTTW Chicago. November 1, 1924, https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=i6Og58n8tbNYh32x&v=OCn98CGD-3A&feature=youtu.be

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In Part Two of our 3 part episode about teenage thrill killers, #LeopoldAndLoeb Megan and Thomas discuss what would become known as #TheCrimeOfTheCentury

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images:

*Special thanks once again to #ErikRebain from whom all these images were sourced*

1 Loeb, Sbarbaro, Crowe, Leopold and Savage in the front row, with other employees of the State’s Attorney’s office behind them

2 Loeb digging up Bobby Franks’ belt

3 Hall, Brown, Hickson alienists examine Leopold in prison accompanied by Ben Bachrach

4 Leopold and Leopold sharing a look on July 25th

5 Phrenology diagram of Leopold

6 Phrenology diagram of Loeb

7 #ClarenceDarrow addresses court

8 Crowe questions Lorraine Nathan in court

9 Leopold and Loeb listening to testimony

10 Judge Caverly, Leopold, Loeb and Crowe outside on July 25th

Sources:

Baatz, Simon. For the Thrill of It: Leopold, Loeb and the Murder That Shocked Chicago. HarperCollins. October 13, 2009.

Higdon, Hal. The Leopold and Loeb: The Crime of the Century.Chicago. University of Illinois Press. 1995, 1999 & 2010.

Fass, Paula S. Kidnapped: Child Abduction in America. Oxford University Press. November 20, 1997.

Rebain, Erik. Arrested Adolescence: The Secret Life of NathanLeopold. Rowan & Littlefield Publishers. April 15, 2023.

Crimes of the Centuries with Amber Hunt. S1Ep2: Leopold & Loeb: Jazz Age Killers.

Bad Gays. Episode 9: Leopold and Loeb. May 14, 2019.

“Deadly Alliance: Leopold & Loeb – A Chicago Stories Documentary.” YouTube, uploaded by WTTW Chicago. November 1, 1924,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=i6Og5

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With Part One of our 3 part episode about teenage thrill killers, #LeopoldAndLoeb we examine the early lives of #NathanLeopold and #RichardLoeb in the lead-up to the senseless killing of young #BobbyFranks in what would become known as the #crimeofthecentury

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images:

*Special thanks to #ErikRebain for sources

1 Leopold & Loeb
2 Leopold Family - Patricia Stern
3 Young Nathan Leopold - 1920 Harvard School for Boys yearbook
4 Ernest and Richard with tennis rackets – Richard Loeb Papers; Charles Deering McCormick Library of Special Collections, Northwestern University Libraries
5 a postcard showing the patio of “The Big House”, Charlevoix
6 Richard Loeb (center) with some of his fraternity brothers in the 1922 UoM yearbook
7 Leopold feeding a Kirtland’s Warbler in 1923
8 Bobby Franks – Chicago Daily News
9 A culvert along the Pennsylvania Railroad tracks near Wolf Lake where Bobby’s body was concealed – Getty
10 Bobby Franks funeral, Jon Blackwell @100YearsAgoNews

Thomas tells us about young #Quaker woman, #JemimaWilkinson, who after a grave illness was reborn as the #genderless , spiritual being the #PublicUniversalFriend.

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images:

1 Portrait from David Hudson's 1821 biography

2 1796, Western New York

3 depiction of the Quaker concept of the “Peaceable Kingdom” – Edward Hicks

4 First Great Awakening – Hugh Bridport

5 Quaker woman orating at a Friend’s Gathering – G.Schouten

6 The Public Universal Friend – John Mathies, 1816

7 Public Universal Friend sticker - unknown

8 The Public Universal Friend's House - unknown

Sources:

Cleveland, Stafford. History and directory of Yates County [...] and a narrative of the Public Universal Friend, her society and doctrine. Pen Yan, New York: S. C. Cleveland, 1873.

Gordon, Colby. Interview on "Gender Reveal," October 7, 2024. Podcast episode 179, season 13.

Larson, Scott. "'Indescribable being': theological performances of genderlessness in the Society of the Public Universal Friend, 1776-1819." Critical Approaches to Sex and Gender in Early America, vol. 12, nr. 3 (2014): 576-600. (Special Issue, Beyond the Barriers).

Moyer, Paul. The Public Universal Friend: Jemima Wilkinson and religious enthusiasm in Revolutionary America. Ithaca: Cornell University Press: 2015.

Wisbey, Herbert. Pioneer prophetess: Jemima Wilkinson, the Publick Universal Friend. Ithaca: Cornell University Press, 1964.Kawamoto, Hanna. “'Spiritually unsexed': believers, critics, and early histories of the Publick Universal Friend, 1776-1835. UC Santa Barbara, 2024. (Winner of The Library Award for Undergraduate Research).

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Hi all! In this first episode of #TheseOldQueers we introduce ourselves, discuss our queer coming-of-age experiences and why we identify as #queer. Have a listen, and say hi! We'd also love to know what you'd like us to cover. Listen via the link or wherever you get your podcasts.

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