jo

@jo@infosec.exchange
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332 Following
646 Posts

infosec acolyte and unix enthusiast
suspected cat kisser
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opinions are my own and are not written by "abominable intelligence", nor do they reflect the opinions of my employer.

My career so far:
🪟 Windows Developer (read: window factory worker)
 IT/sysadmin
📦 Containerization Expert
🏛️ .gov (thanks a lot, EO 14168)
🖤 The Darkness

I don't really like this instance but honestly I lack the energy to migrate.

JoinedNov 4, 2022
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Show threadjo2h ago
@admirallazuli bigots only being bigoted ooc honestly sounds worse to me. "I'll play nicely, but I'm actually a turbo racist irl" is less than ideal
Show threadjo2h ago
@candyether.space introducing the medibot to my good friend, the emag
Show threadjo2d ago

@vfrmedia @ned A McDonald's by me closed, and Google Maps kept it as open for over a year, despite me reporting it as closed. So they just kinda suck sometimes.

Getting these places on OSM would be great, as they're presumably not as easily swayed by current shitshow going on.

jo4d ago
on that spooky frightset fr fr
Show threadjo4d ago
@Reborn_Cat_Mom Even with Executive Order 14168, you still have a right to be patted down by someone of the same gender (but don't say gender to them, since they're trained to ignore that word, say 'sex')
Show threadjo6d ago
@mattsheffield You're spreading misinformation, drag queens and transgender people should both be 0.
joJun 18
Tom WarrenJun 17
🤦‍♂️
joJun 14
@shodansafari huh, curious what they're doing
joJun 11
Another Angry WomanJun 11
ea nasir is back baby awooo
joJun 11
David GerardJun 10
shel silverstein on the LLM, 1981
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Tom WarrenJun 17
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Show threadunixjunk1e 🌵Jun 17

@tomwarren.co.uk

At least he didn't tell her to do her own research 

Show threadTheStrangelet Jun 17
@tomwarren.co.uk 😂😂😂 Wow!
Show threadMiakodaJun 17
@tomwarren.co.uk I wish signal would make a proper app for Linux Mobile.
Show threadJoe AlexanderJun 18
@hellomiakoda
Show threadMiakodaJun 18
@joe Can't say I understand your reply
Show threadJoe AlexanderJun 18
@hellomiakoda @Mer__edith
Show threadMiakodaJun 18
@joe @Mer__edith That doesn't clear it up.
Show threadBert DriehuisJun 17
@tomwarren.co.uk Who needs artificial stupidity when you've got the real thing in ample supply?
Show threadJohnny von AwesomeJun 17

@tomwarren.co.uk Omg. This is another instant classic.

Also, I love @Mer__edith . She's the best.

Show threadAsharasJun 17
@tomwarren.co.uk huge "look it up baby" vibe 😄
Show threadOliver VanderbJun 17

@tomwarren.co.uk

Well... there is always this one guy 🙂

Show threadHelga Secures All the ThingsJun 17
Ahhh still haven't decided about continuing study this semester. Do I want to drop two grand on sitting through someone reading a powerpoint and telling war stories while teaching myself the tools to create a fake incident report on a technology that was deprecated several years ago? Added bonus, an exam with ai-generated quiz that repeats half its questions on the same 5% of content. Also good luck figuring out what's actually in the exam.
Show threadHelga Secures All the ThingsJun 17

to be fair, some subjects have been better taught than others, and there's the occasional interesting assignment, but unfortunately it's been far from consistent. Staff need more training in learning design and teaching, and need more resources and hours to do their jobs effectively.

The exam experience has been uniformly atrocious, certainly compared to my experience of exams for my psychology degree, which were well designed and for which I was well prepared. Ironically I suspect a lot of the learning design support that is offered in ITC is not useful because the learning designers don't understand the topics adequately. Though generally there's such a lot of bad learning design out there, especially in the digital space... god don't get me started on that...

Show threadVoracious ReaderJun 17

@tomwarren.co.uk

Impressive how he also manages to include typing, punctuation, and vocabulary errors in his posts, in addition to the factual error and industry ignorance!

Show threadAlexJun 17
@tomwarren.co.uk LMAO
Show threadChristian RickertJun 18

@tomwarren.co.uk

I like her. <3

Show threadJohn Quentin HeywoodJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk Oy.
Show threadsteve mookie kongJun 18

@tomwarren.co.uk

Bill be like...

https://youtu.be/AqSDQ5mR1gU

cc: @lisamelton

MythBusters - I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own (w/ context)

YouTube
Show threadAlanJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk So that does make me muse 🤔 , how does one suppress mansplaining in an AI training corpus
Show threadReayJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk @lisamelton 😂
Show threadNazoJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk Like what even... He just declares these things as if he has inside information and... he doesn't....
Show threadGlyphJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk @joelle this is so embarrassing I feel like turning inside out. I looked up the original thread and it just keeps getting worse and worse, the ratios are off the charts. And this guy has 60k+ followers? For… what?
Show threadnot ch1cJun 18
@glyph @tomwarren.co.uk @joelle no one is going to ask bill much of anything after this
Show threadGlyphJun 18
@cthon1c @tomwarren.co.uk @joelle I wish I could believe that, he does not appear to have lost many
Show thread0xC0DEC0DE07E9Jun 18
@glyph @cthon1c @tomwarren.co.uk @joelle ask Bill Mitchell to shut up
Show threadDarren du NordJun 18
@glyph @tomwarren.co.uk @joelle I didnt realize I could buy 60K Bsky bot followers on Fiverr.
Show threadPanic at the Trishco 🕊️Jun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk
Wow. Kind of wish she had just kept answering “No” with an increasing number of hearts as his rant went on.
Show threadTito CiuroJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk @saraislet Bill should go under a rock for a while and think about what he has done.
Show threadSteveg58Jun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk
I wouldn't discount it out of hand. I saw, in a big engineering company I worked for, where an unprincipled executive had lower level people put systems in place before he toppled the rather principled CEO. It happens because being unprincipled allows you to make a bigger profit.
Show threadSteveg58Jun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk
On the other hand seeing as how he continued his theory as shown in another post he's just another troll.
Show thread~$ sudo apt install anthuanJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk it's funny cause it's like she is actually standing there with that smile in her face replying that man
Show threadMy camera shoots fascistsJun 18

@tomwarren.co.uk

I'd have given anything to see her reaction to all this in person. I'm sure she's way above getting annoyed at this sort of crap by now and was probably cracking the fuck up.

I really wonder if this guy had the slightest bit of self-reflection afterward. (Kinda doubt it.)

Show threadMartin Vermeer FCDJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk The boss is always the last to find out, right?
Show threadMarco TorchianoJun 18

@tomwarren.co.uk

The perfect poster for mansplaining?

Show threadOsma A 🇫🇮🇺🇦Jun 18
Had Signal been indexed by Windows Recall, one might stretch definition of "integration" if only seeking to score a point. Alas, Signal Foundation researched, discovered and publicized a method to avoid messages being read by a platform level LLM.
Show threadAlopeceJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk Not sure how this is "mansplaining" other than the fact that a man is trying to explain something. He had a opinion, mistaken though it was. He wasn't patronizing, at least in the snippet of conversation shown here. Was he supposed to assume that an anonymous person saying "no" to him was the company CEO?
Show threadOriel Jutty Jun 18
@michaelvcooper1 @tomwarren.co.uk What do you mean, "an anonymous person"? The name is right there: Meredith Whittaker.
Show threadAlopeceJun 18

@barubary @tomwarren.co.uk Did you know the name of the CEO of Signal, before this exchange went viral? Do you look up the credentials of every person you answer on social media?

I've had many debates with strangers on social media over the years. Sometimes I've even been wrong. But it has never occurred to me that the person I'm speaking to might be a high-level executive with insider information. So I don't blame this guy for not considering that.

Show threadOriel Jutty Jun 18

@michaelvcooper1 @tomwarren.co.uk

Did you know the name of the CEO of Signal, before this exchange went viral?

Not actively, but the name looked familiar, so I would've taken a second to look at their profile before replying.

Do you look up the credentials of every person you answer on social media?

Why was an answer necessary in this case?

Particularly this answer, which implied familiarity with or insider knowledge of Signal's business strategy ("... likely be timing up with Anthropic's Claude or Perplexity ...") and technical foundations ("... engineers have already began laying out the ground work ..."). Keep in mind, all this was stated as definite fact, not an opinion, speculation or rumor ("They will ... its coming").

And then that same dude doesn't even recognize the name of the person who has been the president of Signal and sitting on its board of directors since 2022.

So what exactly qualifies him to "explain" anything about Signal?

Show threadAlopeceJun 18

@barubary @tomwarren.co.uk Come on. You need "qualifications" to express an opinion on the internet now? My guess (only a guess) is that this guy was repeating an internet rumor. That makes him gullible perhaps, but nothing more.

Do you know what would have cleared the air instantly? If Ms. Whittaker had simply replied "Hello, this is Meredith Whittaker, CEO of Signal. I'm not sure where you got this information, but I can assure you that there is no truth to it." Not hard.

Show threadOriel Jutty Jun 18

@michaelvcooper1

I feel like you're twisting words to suit your argument, so I'd like to clarify a few things.

As far as I'm concerned, there is a difference between explaining something and expressing an opinion on something. (But in either case you should be at least passingly familiar with the topic at hand if you want to be taken seriously. There's your "qualifications".) You're seamlessly switching between calling it a man just trying to explain something, an online debate, and someone expressing an opinion. Those are not the same thing.

Explaining things at people (particularly things you know nothing about and your audience does) is patronizing in and of itself.

No one was anonymous.

Whittaker is not the CEO of Signal. (That would be Brian Acton, I believe.)

Why is it that you expect Whittaker to announce her qualifications just to reject something that has been asserted without any justification? Why isn't the onus on Mitchell to provide any evidence for his claims? (Or at least to check her profile to see who he's lecturing. In your words: Not hard.) Those were rhetorical questions; I don't expect an answer. Bye.

Show threadAlopeceJun 18

@barubary I feel that in the context of a casual internet conversation, the differences between "expressing an opinion", "explaining something" and "an online debate" amount to semantic frivolity. Attempting to make an issue out of my word choices is a distraction.

Not saying Mitchell was right. He wasn't. I'm only saying he is not a mansplaining mysogynist simply for being wrong, while in a conversation in which a woman was right.

Bye.

Show threadDrWhoZeeJun 18
@michaelvcooper1 @barubary @tomwarren.co.uk Yes
Show threadskaphleJun 18
@michaelvcooper1 @tomwarren.co.uk It was not an opinion. It was a fact, and a false one, stated with the arrogance and confidence that is typical of people raised as male.
Show threadAlopeceJun 19
@skaphle @tomwarren.co.uk
No. 
Show threadJensJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk Later replies from this clown are also great.
Mansplaining as a service
Show threadnadakaJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk 😂 how you destroy your trustworthiness in just two posts.
Show threadMike 🏳️‍🌈Jun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk what a tool
Show threadDatalineJun 18
@tomwarren.co.uk link to thread: https://skyview.social/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbsky.app%2Fprofile%2Faskbillmitchell.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3lrta4cqcpc2k&viewtype=tree he doubled down to her face, that's the funniest part
A BlueSky thread by Meredith Whittaker on Skyview

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