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Software development methodologies compared.

#software #development #agile #waterfall #ai #developer

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Software development methodologies compared.

#software #development #agile #waterfall #ai #developer

@mookie AI jokes aside, waterfall is not represented here.
@mookie read: scrummasters are a dying breed
@gary_alderson @mookie Why were they a breed at all, we shall never know. (I never had a dedicated scrummaster anywhere, but the entire agile methodology appears to me as some kind of attempt to turn software development into a religion)
@mookie heads up there's a typo in the alt text and it calls the cat motorcycle a car motorcycle lol

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@mookie as someone who knows nothing about tech, this just looks like an undeserved compliment towards AI, the horrible city-ruining car becomes a lovely duck

@compost_funeral @mookie

Thereโ€™s a bit of a narrative though.

In Waterfall, you tend to build the pieces, then build up, but may not have anything functional until the end.

In Agile, you focus on building something basic & working first, then iterate, improving it but keeping it functional through your iterations.

The last one (AI) is a non-sequitur pile of unrelated nonsense.

I think thatโ€™s a big part of the tech joke.

@darth_hideout @mookie thank you for explaining the joke to someone who had 0 context!

@darth_hideout

Waterfall & Agile ๐Ÿ‘

I think the AI iterations are not unrelated, but are meant to show the deterioration in the process of prompting. Like:

Prompt 1: Build me a car.
-> AI produces the car lookalike.

P2: That doesn't look like a catยน and it should have one more wheel.
-> AI produces a cat tricycle.

P3: Damn, not a cat, btw. animals don't have wheels.
-> AI produces a duckling (not a cat) w/o wheels.

๐Ÿ˜…
@compost_funeral @mookie

ยน typo intended (via ALT hint by @raphaelmorgan)

@mookie i see the subtle agile critique.

@ivorytusk

Hehe. I noticed that too.

@mookie the intermediate stages of Agile are closer to AI than youโ€™d think.
@mookie Honestly, the duck's feet would probably be merging into one another.
@mookie Not gonna lie, that cat bike looks cool though ))

@mookie the thing is: With waterfall you may end up with the car as planned but than you realize, you needed a truck instead.

And with agile you actually end up with a car that has teeny tiny skateboard wheels and a wooden frame because that's how you started and replacing it would be to expensive.

So AI is the only approach that is consistent all the way. You start with crap, the in-between is crap and the end result is crap.

@feyter @mookie garbage in garbage out as usual ^^
@f4grx @feyter @mookie no worries, recently I am seeing narratives about โ€œalgorithmic managementโ€ what can go wrong.
@f4grx @feyter @mookie the most strange part was, when they say AI is not taking sides and makes perfect decisions, well that depends on what are the values. And I highly doubt AI can and ever will be able to weight between different values case by case. And I would like to see sensible human being willing to be managed by AI. Next scary thing is AI crap in HR departments now being renamed to PeopleOps.
@mookie careful as this may actually heavily promote AI

New entry on cv:

VibeScript, strongly duck-typed

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You can have a versatile car in a year.

A golf cart in a month.

Or a duck in a day.

๐Ÿค“๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿฅน

@mookie ironically this image itself I believe to be โ€œAIโ€ generated
@mookie I think this is a little exaggerated.
The duck should have at least some wheels.
I don't know how many and where they are, though ...
@mookie
And when you touch the duck car alarms blare. It honks instead of quake and there are wheels and gears inside it instead of organs. Also it goes the speed of pebble by rotating its legs like they are wheels.
@mookie I don't think this is accurate; AI never produced anything as cute as that cat-bike or that duck
@mookie ... but the cat and duck are so cute ๐Ÿฅบ
@mookie note that none of these end up with trains and public transit like they should

the analogy is correct in this also
@mookie so this is why my new web portal keeps quacking.
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Attached: 1 image Because fuck AI and those using it, here's my version of this meme which is about how we create things, with a car as an example. It took me 20min, I added some personnality and even added my special intererests into the mix. This is what the internet should be.

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@mookie "Agile" as a Software Development Methodology is what you get when you put a baby MBA hooked on energy drinks in charge of a software project.
@mookie @BRicker I would totally drive (ride?) that cat with wheels.
@mookie This is accurate because in the Agile model somebody forgot to make the back window and nobody noticed until we shipped.
@mookie these humorous pictures never challenged their underlying assumption. Most customers and users donโ€™t actually know what they want and are unable to articulate it well at any point in the development process this picture assumes the customer needs a car to solve their problem and that they need that specific kind of a car by the end of the development process. CC:@lproven