stux⚡️In the #Netherlands we have dedicated bike streets where #cars are guest 😸
Ellen@stux Is in Haren ook. En het werkt eigenlijk best goed. Eén van de weinige straten waar men zich daadwerkelijk aan de 30 per uur houdt.
Marleen 🍉@isisevrinen @stux in Nijmegen ook🙌🎊
Janneke 🔻 - 🍋 🍉@MarleenChocoladeteen @isisevrinen @stux in de fietststraat-auto-te-gast hier om de hoek wordt wel ietsjes rustiger gereden, maar ik denk altijd dat dat meer komt omdat het doodloopt... De meeste chauffeurs hier gedragen zich toch, alsof de fietsers te gast zijn...
IrinaBij die "auto te gast" straten stel ik me dan toch zo'n gast voor die met zijn schoenen op de bank zit en ongevraagd de koelkast openrukt.
Chu 朱I'm so impressed with biking in NL. Cyclists don't even have to ring their bells constantly as bikes rule the road and aren't threatened every minute.
ZeeThey can but there are so many bike paths that cyclists don't feel constantly threatened the way we do in other places like Canada. I noticed cyclists don't ring bells much in NL. At least in Maastricht. In Toronto, I'd be ringing my bell constantly as our bike lanes are beside parked cars (if they exist at all) and I'm worried about getting doored. I only rented a bike to ride one day in Maastricht but felt so safe in comparison. I'm glad I got to experience the Dutch biking culture even a little bit.
@chu Yea I get your point. There were protests in the 70ies by cyclists in the Netherlands to demand safer streets for cycling.
https://onsamsterdam.nl/artikelen/4-juni-1977-fietsdemonstratie-op-het-museumplein So feel free to copy this tactic.
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@Zeezee @stux some in here
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-bike-lane-removal-bill-protest-1.7391886
These look like they are mostly from the protests too.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=fpas&q=Toronto+bike+lane+protest+&ia=images&iax=images
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Sophia 🎶☃️🩵✨@stux Are you missing the Netherlands, in the car country, called Germany?
Otte Homan - remember Geordie@stux this is how it needs to be: the more dangerous mode of transport should always be "just a tolerated guest". Pedestrians vs bicycles, bikes vs cars, cars vs trucks, trucks vs trains, etc.
RotanAre you just listing movie titles like "Alien vs Predator"? :)
Though seriously, agree with you completely. All shared transport zones should be used with heightened awareness of the relative vulnerabilities.
Joanie with the Good Hair 😷@stux Yes! For years, I've loved these from afar, and really wish they were everywhere. ❤️🚲
colombiaorc@stux In america people hit pets and animals are driving practice it seems
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And they encourage cycling without clothes.
And they encourage cycling without clothes.
Noortje Van Leeuwen@stux sadly, cars act like the guests that demand you to adhere to them...
Kinda like a comedian once spoke of the French "when you go to France, they expect you to speak their language, as you are a guest in their country...when they go to your country, they expect you to speak their, because they are a guest..."
I had cars on bike streets ref their engines at me, or try to cut me off, some even rammed their horn like it was a boxing machine, and used insults to get me to move to the side...
Eivind (like the Terrible) ✨@stux it's such a weird, almost eerie, feeling to bike down one of those and have a motorist just crawl behind you with no honking or anything for someone coming from a less civilized country. Like they're just waiting for there to be no witnesses before they pounce.
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Christian Gudrian@stux We have similar streets in Germany. But a different kind of car drivers.
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Riku Voipio@stux In Denmark I saw these 2-minus-1 roads where a narrow two-lane car road is converted to a one lane car road with two large shoulders for bikes and pedestrians. Now this only works for rural low traffic roads, as whenever two cars meet, the cars visit the shoulders...
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