@stux

I'm so impressed with biking in NL. Cyclists don't even have to ring their bells constantly as bikes rule the road and aren't threatened every minute.

@Zeezee @stux

They can but there are so many bike paths that cyclists don't feel constantly threatened the way we do in other places like Canada. I noticed cyclists don't ring bells much in NL. At least in Maastricht. In Toronto, I'd be ringing my bell constantly as our bike lanes are beside parked cars (if they exist at all) and I'm worried about getting doored. I only rented a bike to ride one day in Maastricht but felt so safe in comparison. I'm glad I got to experience the Dutch biking culture even a little bit.

@chu Yea I get your point. There were protests in the 70ies by cyclists in the Netherlands to demand safer streets for cycling.

https://onsamsterdam.nl/artikelen/4-juni-1977-fietsdemonstratie-op-het-museumplein So feel free to copy this tactic.

@stux no

@Zeezee @stux

We are a Petro state. Our policies are all dictated by oil men at the end of the day. We do have some nice bike lanes in Toronto finally that the city put in and the conservative provincial government is spending a lot of time and money trying to rip them out. Open corruption.