"There are colors that I want to show you, but I can’t. They exist in the real world. You probably saw some of them today, but I can’t show them to you on a screen. A digital photograph can’t capture them, and your screen can’t display them. No game you’ve ever played has contained them. Unless you have specialized equipment, they are entirely absent from the digital world.

Most of them are cyans."

https://moultano.wordpress.com/2026/06/19/where-to-find-the-colors-your-screen-cant-show-you/

Where to Find the Colors Your Screen Can’t Show You

An atlas of the vibrance of the real world

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@mhoye Ooo, neat article, thank you for sharing! This is part of why I still shoot slide film, nothing you can represent on any screen normal people could afford comes anywhere close to viewing a backlit large format slide.

@mhoye

Back in the days of Analog television in the US, the standard was known as NTSC (it didn't really stand for Never Twice the Same Color, but it should have.)
It was an amazing method of sending a color TV signal in a way that was completely compatible with the old black and white sets (whose designers had not considered color being sent at all, thus had made no provision for it in the specifications.) It also allowed for a color set to show a black and white broadcast without odd color artifacts showing up.
That's where the color gamuts and phosphor choices first reared their heads - and part of the issue was how much color signal you could transmit using NTSC. This wasn't much of a problem when everything was analog from camera to set - you turned a dial at the camera to make sure the colors weren't too bright, all good.

In the mid 1980s, we started to see digital paint systems that could make frames of broadcast TV. They had the ability to make way, way more colors than NTSC could show, because they were directly coupled to the RGB inputs of the monitors.

We realized this problem when our graphics started going on air and we got phone calls from the satellite providers - the images had such high color signals that they were affecting the next channel over, and you could see Station 1's image as ghostly blurring on Station 2.

We then had to train the Paint operators on the concept of "illegal colors" and the size of the FCC fines involved. Fun times!

@mhoye

And another tidbit - originally, the phosphor dots of color on the inside of the picture tube were round. The electron beam which was scanned across the inside of the tube face would tend to widen out in transit, so a metal screen with an identical pattern of tinier holes was placed behind the dots, in perfect alignment - it was called the shadow mask, and made the image sharper because only one dot was hit at any instant.

Then Sony invented the Trinitron tube - it had three adjacent rectangles, not dots. Brighter, technically easier to implement because it used an array of vertical wires as an aperture grille, an overall improvement.

HOWEVER, we in the broadcasting centers were NOT to use Trinitron CRTs.

Why not, you might ask?

The red dot phosphor wasn't the "proper" color of red, it was more orange. If we used the wrong colors on our monitor walls, what looked right in the studio would look wrong in the houses.

We tried pointing out that with the way those TVs were selling, the more orange version of red would be the default standard in no time, and our monitors would be the outliers. We were told that the standard was the standard, red was red, not orange, and we could only buy dot phosphor monitors.

We were also told that our studios would never transmit more than a single channel of audio per channel of video.

Both those proclamations lasted about a year.

@mhoye I saw some of these when we were running plasma etch experiments. We were like huh what's that color I don't know I don't even know how to describe it.
@mhoye incredibly fascinating
@mhoye
Oh cool! I'm too tired to even try understanding this right now, but I wonder if that's why there are certain blue-ish flowers in my garden that always come out more pinky purpley when I try to photograph them, no matter how much I try changing the angle to get different light etc 🤔
(Edit to fix wrong-word brainfart)
@mhoye long ago I read about a color study where researchers wondered about color perception in indigenous Amazonian groups and tested it using color matched cards. Found far finer color perception than in the researchers, even disputing one of the supposedly matched pairs that later was shown to be ever so slightly two different colors.
Have to wonder if decades of being fed smaller choices in color on screens will result in lower perceptive abilities. Probably same for sound, too.

@mhoye "If colorspaces and the CIE chromaticity diagram are already familiar to you, you can skip to the next section".

I know a bit, but reaf anyways. Now I'm wondering about who invented color TV, how does color film chemistry works, and why film is not transparent but brownish.

@mhoye and also: what's the sensor on a non digital TV camera?

And also: THAT's why forest digital pics suck!

And also: wanna see color? Go see the world!

And...

@mdione @mhoye https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera_tube The space probes from the Voyager era also used these to generate an analog signal that was beamed back to Earth and that's how we have photos of the outer planets. 😌
Video camera tube - Wikipedia

Excellent article.

De coloribus et gustibus non disputandum...

@mhoye

At least, things are improving. I lived through working with the 216 web safe colours, frustratingly limiting. Screens generally have a much wider gamut than print processes too.

Today I notice the limitations of my TV screens when sharing an image from the iPad. Sadly, HDR monitors are still out of my budget as a hobbyist, but they sure do look good.

Fantastic article btw!

@mhoye That's a good find. Thanks for sharing 😊

@mhoye thank you for sharing that.

It's annoying reading about colours when there is literally no way to show them in the article! It has given me the impulse I needed today to go outside and find some natural blues and greens to experience.

@mhoye This is just a beautiful explanatory piece. Straightforward to design labs to explore this in class - like middle school physical science even, (I wonder if you can even see this with a super-cheap, diffraction-grating spectroscope? Probably a USB spectrometer would be better if there's a little budget)

#mathTeacher #ScienceTeacher

@mhoye Great article. I’ve lost count of the times I’ve described a photo I’ve taken outdoors — beaches, landscapes, forests, waterfalls, flowers — as “that doesn’t do it justice” because the experience of seeing it in person was so much better. Now I understand how it’s not (or not only) because I’m not a better photographer or because I don’t have a better camera.
@mhoye YES!!! I spent yesterday watching blue Morpho butterflies at the California Academy of Sciences and the structural color truly can't be photographed accurately :( Some of those clear, bright cyan blues are my favorite colors ever, and I'm almost certain that the inability to see them in digital contributes to that. They're a rare treat that can't be perfectly shared.
@mhoye Sharing this all over. Cool topic and really well explained.

@mhoye cool article and their general conclusions seem correct, but if you read all the way to the end:

> For data only present in a figure in a paper, I had Gemini 3.1 Pro extract it from the figure at 10 nm intervals, then plotted the extracted data to make sure it matched the original source without any gross errors.

That means some data may have subtle errors the author didn't catch.

Useful (if unreliable) work done, but it destroys the human sources that enabled it (and their biosphere)

@mhoye Light and colour are absolutely fascinating.
@mhoye this is extremely eye opening. I thoroughly enjoyed learning this and will go out and try to see these colours.
@mhoye Squant was discovered by Negativeland in the 1990's:
https://leonardo.info/gallery/gallery351/negativland.html
SHIFT-CNTRL Gallery: Negativland

@mhoye There are no colours in 'the real world'. All that we perceive are constructs of the brain that just happen to correlate well with what is out there.
@NicelyManifest experiential nihilism is a specific kind of defeatism.

@mhoye I am stating how things are. Why label that? You can see it in a positive light :

Look at a colourful picture or hear an orchestra in full flow - your brain magnificently created these experiences.

Try it.

@mhoye I wonder if it’s possible to paint a message that’s visible to the naked (non-colorblind) eye but impossible to photograph because it uses two shades of cyan that collapse to the same color point in digital display gamuts
@isaaclyman .... you know I bet it definitely is. Now _that_ would make for a hell of a prove-you're-human aesthetic.
@mhoye I was thinking anti-surveillance. Community organizing. You can only read this message if you’re actually here, in person
@isaaclyman It's a great idea with a lot of applications.
@mhoye @isaaclyman I love this idea!!! I guess the tricky part is that paint relies on absorption colours, which also depend on the light that hits the surface, so the message might still show on screens when photographed/filmed under yellow light or so. Perhaps safest would be neon lights that emit light themselves.
@mhoye thats fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
@mhoye Oh, and there are also 'impossible colours' that you can only experience as afterimages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color#Chimerical_colors
Impossible color - Wikipedia

@mhoye There are commercial printing presses with six offset units. Four standard pigments plus two custom colors. If you're making a book cover or advertising poster, there are colors you can get with custom ink mixing that you cannot get with four-color process.

@mhoye I already knew most of the theory (my background is visualization, with a particular passion for color vision and perception), but this was such a great read, and I loved all the examples! Definitely saving it for re-read and to share next time I try to explain this!

My work is entirely screen-based so I don't use CIE colorspace outside of educational purposes. That said, I'm also a hobby artist so I wanted to share a handful of paint and dye resources that might be of interest to you:

@mhoye Pantone colors might be the easiest starting point. This calculator gives you the best Pantone match for L*a*b* coordinates. https://pantonetools.com/converters/lab-to-pantone

They sell color cards for matching but they're really expensive. Their postcard set is somewhat affordable ($20 for 50 cards) but also pretty limited in what is actually included. On the plus side, their color codes are used widely in industry so this could be a good way to find examples that don't translate to RGB, like some car paints.

LAB to Pantone Converter — CIE Lab to PMS Match

Convert LAB to Pantone instantly. Match CIE Lab values to the closest Pantone (PMS) spot color via native ΔE2000 — the most accurate input, ideal for spectro reads.

PantoneTools

@mhoye For more practical use of actual paints:

Kimberly Crick has a database of pigments and paints used in watercolor. She doesn't have CIE info, but this is a great place to find out what pigments are available by which brands, and how they behave. https://www.kimcrick.com/pages/blue-art-supply-pigment-database-watercolor-acrylic-ink-pencil-color-chart-swatch

Daniel Smith is one of the most popular high quality brands and they have an interactive CIE map showing most of their products but its notably missing the fluorescent ones https://danielsmith.com/color-map/

BLUE Art Supply Pigment Database for Watercolor Gouache Acrylic, Ink P

            Artist reference guide to Blue pigments in art supplies. Color chart swatch cards of common pigments in watercolor, gouache, acrylic paint and inks. Includes brand lightfast ratings (plus notes if my independent test found the color to be fugitive), indexed by pigment number code, brand, manufacturer color

Kimberly Crick
@qrai @mhoye this…is…amazeballs.
@mhoye this has always bothered me