Erik โLacraiaโ Magnusson
Alistair DavidsonBlogged about the time I doubled our users by doing proper engineering instead of React slop
Hey if you would like a cantankerous old man to double your users with the power of proper engineering, you could even hire me
Goteer Txuria@moh_kohn Just a heads up for the site: I don't know what happened, but I cannot read your site using waterfox nor firefox. (Ungoogled) Chrome works fine.
Might be my heavily themed OS, just check on firefox and if fine carry on!
Might be my heavily themed OS, just check on firefox and if fine carry on!
@GoteerTxuria I use firefox day-to-day and it works for me, if there's a real issue I would want to fix it
@moh_kohn Thank you for checking, then there's something seriously wrong on my machine
unnick@GoteerTxuria @moh_kohn the site is also broken on firefox for me. it seems like the atkinson font the page loads doesnt render at all for some reason
joriki 
@unnick @GoteerTxuria @moh_kohn
fwiw, works fine for me on FF android with shields up
@unnick @GoteerTxuria web development, what fun ๐ญ
Colin@GoteerTxuria @moh_kohn works fine on Waterfox on my macOS anyways.
Also, great read!
echarlie@moh_kohn @GoteerTxuria firefox ESR in my case; it's throwing errors like: "Content-Security-Policy: The pageโs settings blocked an inline style (style-src-attr) from being applied because it violates the following directive: โstyle-src blob: *โ. Consider using a hash ('sha256-eyEQIkqjJt2vT6Kt1pkSUhwTpB67WcyjJnghw+gdf54=', requires 'unsafe-hashes' for style attributes) or a nonce."
And again, can't see anything without disabling the CSS.
@notecharlie @GoteerTxuria thanks, will investigate when I get time
@notecharlie @GoteerTxuria could you let me know if it works now?
ZakAll the text is invisible for me in Firefox on Linux when the --font-body is set to "Atkinson", sans-serif. Setting it to "Atkinson Hyperlegible", sans-serif fixed it.
Edit: that doesn't fix it; it just uses the default sans-serif, so "Atkinson" is correctly selecting the custom font and then it isn't displaying. I tried another machine also running Firefox on Linux and the site worked without a fuss.
@[email protected] @moh_kohn Huh. I wonder if it's a font issue, a linux issue or a firefox on linux issue.
Will keep in mind so I can just override the font to read next time it may happen
Will keep in mind so I can just override the font to read next time it may happen
@GoteerTxuria could you let me know if it works now?
Kayla Eilhart (en)@moh_kohn I love statically generated sites with as little JavaScript as possible. There's something calming about a website that just loads in a blink of an eye and no clutter, just ... Information. I unfortunately use corporate tools which often send many megabytes of data just to display ... A table with twenty values. And it takes sometimes tens of seconds on an up to date computer and gigabit connection. And no, the backend database and logic is not the bottleneck.
Summer@moh_kohn โbut thatโs a lot more work for us.โ, I remember back in my ol' day, using stuff like WTForms and the such. Server side libraries that took in the request data (or other such things) (if any) for any pre-existing filled form info, and in return, gave a form structure with HTML and validation and this and that for what it needed (if anything), or for validation error information (if any), handled it all, all server side, in a couple of function calls. Feels weird that that approach has mostly fallen off of everyone's radars.
Haelwenn /ัะปะฒัะฝ/ 
@moh_kohn > He was appalled and said, โbut thatโs a lot more work for us.โ
Could it even be? Because with building things that way there's much less dependencies and so much less churn (if there's even any, like vanilla JS pretty much doesn't breaks).
Could it even be? Because with building things that way there's much less dependencies and so much less churn (if there's even any, like vanilla JS pretty much doesn't breaks).
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Tim Ward โญ๐ช๐บ๐ถ #FBPE@moh_kohn "... a housing benefits office ... They are singularly unlovely places."
I walked into our newly refurbished housing benefits office (it did other things as well) as a new councillor. "Hey this is good," I said, "it's decorated well enough to show that the customers are respected but not so well that it looks like we're flaunting our excessive use of public money."
"Yes," my guide said, "that was the design brief."
๐ณ๏ธโ๐ leberschnitzel ๐ณ๏ธโ๐@moh_kohn โbut thatโs a lot more work for us.โ something like that always makes me think: could someone make a tool that reduces the work for the maintainer?
poleguy looking for lost tools@leberschnitzel @moh_kohn Often I find that the software people saying "but that's a lot more work for us" are actually saying "but that's not work that I can do in my favorite framework that I want to use so I can put it on my resume because it is currently in hot demand in the job market."
I find software engineers not very interested in the customers or the company vision, but more focused on their own career growth.
Management fails to push back, unaware.
Bean Club 
Brokar@moh_kohn Every web developer should read this!
I usually use NoScript to browse (safety first) and i loathe websites which don't show anything without javascript.
You don't need an overloaded engine or framework to display some text and some images. That can be done with simple CSS and HTML.
The motto should always be "customer first". If that results in more work, then so be it. That's what the employer pays you for.
Daniel Jonsson@moh_kohn thanks for sharing, excellent read
jomo
seismo!allegra!utzoo@moh_kohn well done. Now, where's my Netscape.
DefaultKevin@moh_kohn This is the way.
EF
๐๐๐ถ๐๐๐๐๐@moh_kohn brilliant, remind me of everything I loved doing ten years ago.
64kb@moh_kohn I've always thought 50% of databases could be files in a filesystem (especially if they support links).
Simplicity rules! KISS
microplastic@moh_kohn you people are just calling anything slop nowadays huh