I want Pride, not Sublimation—Aria’s Barks

Why are anthologies of queer media often alienating to me? No spoilers, but a twist ending.

The alienation of some queer media is something I've independently noticed over the years but couldn't find a way to articulate that wouldn't sound werid.

The working title of my closest attempt was, Pride Month Is Clearly For My Betters. But even that sounds wrong. Thus, it's been relegated to Rough Draft Hell for many years.

I did manage to write https://soatok.blog/2024/12/05/furry-queer-and-lonely/ a couple of years ago.

The sad part is that here I am, like two years later, and nothing has materially changed in my life. Hahaha.

Furry, Queer, and Lonely - Dhole Moments

What is it about being queer that makes loneliness, isolation, and rejection so much more intense than enduring than what our straight friends and family purport to experience? Harubaki Are we just…

Dhole Moments

There are many reasons why I end up feeling like #PrideMonth isn't meant for me.

Being demi makes a lot of gay cis male spaces uncomfortable. The way gay men objectify each other tells me a lot about the shitty beliefs a lot of men have towards women.

Stereotypes like, "Oh, you're a bottom? So you must be bad at math." Or even, "Oh, you're a bottom? So you must be lean and feminine-coded."

Or the accusations of catfishing because, if you have boundaries, that means you must logically be a "dom".

These are all things that I've been told at least once by someone over the years while being rejected from other queer folks.

(Note: I'm also cis, but being on the asexual spectrum makes things more frustrating than I can put to words.)

The only spaces I've found where I actually feel comfortable with my queerness aren't Pride events (with or without corporate backing), they're furry conventions.

Only at furry conventions can I just... vibe with people. In my fursuit, if I want, and while that's objectively weird at least locally it's treated as normal.

If I want to do sexual things, the option is usually there. (Private room parties, some friends and friends-of-friends, etc.)

But if I just want to cuddle and laugh and talk about nerd shit for four hours, I can do it.

And that's the vibe I've been trying to cultivate around myself here on Fedi.

@soatok

But if I just want to cuddle and laugh and talk about nerd shit for four hours, I can do it.

THIS, 100 percent this. While i enjoy a good time, i also just want friends to be silly with =)

@soatok i wish i knew i was trans at age 18 with the same certainty that i knew i was ace at 12

and o’er here, in the transfemme spaces, it does get annoying how sexualized things can get at times!

so this thread is relatable, even if it’s coming from slightly different sector of rainbowspace

@kouhai @soatok For "gender queer and ace spectrum" spaces you basically got your furry spaces, and your hacker spaces.

There's significant overlap.

@kouhai @soatok Spaces or situations where trans women are too hornt can leave me feeling like I'm broken or something.
@ra6bit @soatok I usually go “please get a room”
@ra6bit @soatok and the hacker spaces are only sometimes ace…

@soatok I wish I'd found furry spaces sooner. Figured out I was pan pretty early on but also never really felt comfortable at Pride events (a small gathering sure; miss me with anything like a parade or concert).

Conventions, especially smaller ones, are a really good fit for me!

@soatok I'd love to cuddle and talk nerdy with you Soatok _^

@soatok > if I just want to cuddle and laugh and talk about nerd shit for four hours, I can do it.

Sounds like my kind of a good time ;3

@soatok Aside/tangential: Having been among a bunch of wonderful furry/anthro folks for awhile now - it’s such an incredibly stark contrast to other spaces I’m forced to be in that are just downright hostile or even antagonistic.

Like a horror movie trope where you go, enter a space, and it’s like these people make the air go ice-cold. I’m talking you see your breath.

@soatok
Being on the ace spectrum is such a pain.
Being transfemme does not help.

@kirtai fedi really pushes hard that there's a One Correct Way to be transfeminine, which definitely feels relatable to the alienation up top, from the other dimension

@soatok

@erisceleste @soatok
Yeah, but I will keep trying to be me 
@soatok I wish I could disagree with you, but it's pretty spot on, and part of why I just have never felt particularly welcome in gay spaces. Queer spaces more so. It's really hard for cismen, regardless of sexuality, to not be shit. Some succeed, but far too few.
@soatok Don't really have anything to say on the matter besides that yeah, as ace a lot of spaces kinda weird me out and don't feel built with me in mind. So I feel this.
@FlitsFlash @soatok Yup, same. Especially hard for me to engage in kink spaces because it often feels like sexual interaction is also expected at some level.
@soatok Boo. That’s sucks
@soatok I’d love to talk nerd stuff with you. I don’t have the knowledge to be able to converse with you about cryptography or the math behind it, by I know I’d learn a lot just listening and asking questions now and then

@soatok Similar situation here, I'm also Demi, but I'm that weird Demi that isn't Ace. This makes sexual ANYTHING for me a lot more complicated having the sexual desires of a normal person, but the emotional entanglements that come with being Demi.

I'm the unusual amongst the unusual, and it makes being involved socially really hard sometimes, especially in spaces that are sexually charged.

@soatok sounds like you need better gay/queer people to hang out with if all you hear are these stereotypes 3:
@spud This isn't "all" I hear
@soatok it's not always easy and it's not only during June. I too have boundaries and sometimes people online get pissed because you don't play their game.
But once you've filtered them out, some people are really cool to hang out with
@soatok This is definitely relatable. Obviously everyone experiences things differently - including on the ace spectrum, which I find myself comfortably situated.

But yeah. It's super complicated. My own feelings about sex and stuff feel super convoluted; though, it's primarily emotional connection that's significant to me, I think. Anyone who knows me probably knows how difficult things are for me or my own flaws.

To be honest, I just genuinely don't know. I absolutely feel safer and more at home in furry spaces, but even then I often feel somewhat isolated.
@soatok At my local cities pride. I sometimes wonder if they want like-minded people or soldiers. Hearing about speakers calling AI out at pride I would be seriously paranoid to do that at such an event. For when we achieve broad-band sentient AI. Those ghosts within the machine are going to remember those speeches as groups of hate. A little cyberpunk i know. Just looking out for the future.
@soatok As for my personal feeling about pride. Talking to some of the staff where they gas-lit me stating that as I'm ace i didn't suffer prosecution like they have. Heh... Possibly... But it's an 'in progress' thing isn't it? stack over-commercialization and replacing history with propaganda.. and suddenly.. no.. I don't want to go to pridefest..I am not wanted nor needed.

@soatok One of the reasons I'm grateful for LGBT people being as normalized as they are, even if it's not perfect, is that I (also ace-spec) kinda detest that "default" culture of how MLM treat each other, and if I could *only* be non-het-by-default in spaces they dominate, I'd never be able to sort through their noise to find someone I was actually interested in.

It'd be nice if men could be more normal about relationships with other people, regardless of gender. I can't even deny there's an appeal to some of the underlying dynamics, but a lot of people don't seem to understand that it's fundamentally a fiction layered on top of the fact that there's a *person* with their own feelings on the other end.