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Max LeibmanWhy don’t they just ask the AI how to make AI profitable?
AI can now generate anything you can imagine.
Except profits.
SecondUniverse (she/her/they)@maxleibman just put AI in charge of accounting!
Connor Cadellin@SecondUniverse @maxleibman just wait till vibe taxes catch on
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doragasu@maxleibman Profits work only for NVIDIA.
catch@doragasu @maxleibman for now.
BillDRAM makers are doing ok too
@w_b @maxleibman True, and to a lesser extent, also to others making hardware like AMD and Broadcom.
@doragasu @w_b Yeah. In a gold rush, it's the people selling picks and shovels that make the money.
Although even there, the spoils are very uneven. I heard that companies like G.Skill are in trouble—they package memory chips into RAM modules, and they're getting pinched on the supply side because chips are thin on the ground and on the demand side because they're having to charge higher prices that fewer people are paying.
@maxleibman @w_b Yeah. Also companies doing PC components like cases are having a very bad time.
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kai@maxleibman imagining profits? In this economy?
Timothy Wolodzko@maxleibman here you need human in the loop, or more precisely, their credit card details in the loop
TC Won't Give In To LiesProfits come after total domination of the market and destruction of competitors.
Haven't we all learned the tech playbook of the last 40 years yet?
#RegulateAI
Neo Ehproque@TCatInReality @maxleibman yup.
1. Operate at a loss until all the competition who are not backed by venture capital goes bankrupt.
2. You are a monopoly now. Proceed to degrade quality and charge ridiculous prices.
3. Profit.
Luckily they seem to have underestimated how long step one takes this time.
HollieK@ehproque @TCatInReality @maxleibman And that at some point when you are making everyone bankrupt and/or less-than-minimum-wage-slaves, people decide to get the torches and pitchforks out, because they have nothing left to lose.
@HollieK72 @TCatInReality @maxleibman idk, I was saying that in 2008 but the frogs and the boiling water, plus effective gaslighting…
@ehproque @TCatInReality @maxleibman So it takes longer to get there, but people will get there eventually. Just light the blue touchpaper and boom - revolution!
@HollieK72 @ehproque @maxleibman
Probably why there is a parallel race to a surveillance state.
@TCatInReality @HollieK72 @maxleibman i remember a friend asked me in ~2011 what would be a good investment in Spain and I said riot gas. And a year later Spain voted the conservatives back into government
In a word (pointed by Corey Doctorow), #Enshittification
Jairaj Devadiga@TCatInReality @maxleibman Unfortunately for Scam Altman and his friends, there is no market here.
Consumers overwhelmingly hate "AI" chatbots, and very few people are willing to pay what these things actually cost to operate.
Consumer AI is largely a distraction.
It's the corporate/government uses of generative content and agentic control that are the real threats.
@TCatInReality I agree that’s the playbook, but add up all the revenue across the entire sector and it doesn’t make sense (and isn’t on a growth path to ever make sense) for any one of the major players.
TrueNorthSpice 🇨🇦Maybe they've been driven to madness from listening to their chatbox... AI psychosis
skuaMy imagination is better than language.
Vysogota@maxleibman it's funny until you find out who's going to be holding the bag...
The Doctor@petko @maxleibman All of us will, one way or another.
JohanWAnything, but electricity
Tom Sheppard@maxleibman Or winning lottery numbers.
Crow@maxleibman Profits, and something that isn’t stolen.
DianeLast time I tried ChatGPT mini 4 it seemed trained to avoid saying it was possible to run a company without a CEO.
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🎏@maxleibman It couldn't make a browser either, that was just chrome with a built in add-on ultimately.
Valentyn Prozherin@maxleibman I don't agree with that. It's just a matter of time. Of course, some companies will go bankrupt, and maybe some crises are coming. But we can't judge that at this point in time.
@prozherin I did say “now.”
Ian MalcolmCounterpoint: the only thing that's "just a matter of time" is the bubble bursting.
GenAI is the opposite of useful tech of the last couple of decades. Costs are only going up, infrastructure rapidly becomes obsolete, and NO vendor has turned a genuine profit.
And that's not changing, because the product is unreliable, and every time vendors try to switch users from the "all you can prompt" smorgasbord to charging what it actually costs, folk stop using it at all.
@imalcolm @maxleibman Yes, people are probably becoming more dependent on AI. However, I see it more like calculators, industrial machines, and computers. We are now in a phase of exploration and creation. Then, we will create a machine that can fit a personal AI with local computing in a size similar to a phone, like what happened with memory.
bitterseeds@maxleibman that’s because we’re caught in a static warp bubble and it’s crushing us.
jhhl@maxleibman AI's inadequacies are just because you didn't imagine a profitable enough prompt!
It's like the old "This synthesizer is limited only by (our idea of ) your imagination!"
It's like the old "This synthesizer is limited only by (our idea of ) your imagination!"
We don't need AI. AI needs us.@maxleibman
I'm waiting for that bubble to burst.
I'm waiting for that bubble to burst.
Stephanie@maxleibman @Gargron Unless you‘re Nvidia.
Juno Jove@maxleibman but we were promised unimaginable profits... Oh...
My camera shoots fascistsIt's too busy solving climate change and curing cancer.
Sir Dr Rusty o the Isle 🖤💛❤️@Mikal @maxleibman <mad cackle!>
Edit: sorry, I meant "causing" climate change and cancer.
Cowboy Who?@maxleibman no no - you're supposed to use the AI to replace the workers, not the CEO's ...
Ronan@CowboyWho @maxleibman 🚨🔥🚨🔥🚨🔥🚨🔥
Michael Wyman@maxleibman ask AI? That commie?
maxotaf@maxleibman yes you're right
Turre@maxleibman What makes you think they haven't? 😄
Chris Simpson@maxleibman no can do, that's a genie infinite wishes paradox
Reed Mideke@maxleibman LOL, that was literally Altman's business plan: "We have made a soft promise to investors that once we’ve built this sort of generally intelligent system, basically, we will ask it to figure out a way to generate an investment return for you"
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2025-10-15/openai-has-a-business-plan
Schrödinger's PratI think any self-respecting super intelligence would just spend ten minutes laughing at him if he asked it that.
DCoder 🇱🇹❤🇺🇦
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@maxleibman Because they already know the the perpetrators of the #AICon and #AI_Hype won't like the answers. 😎
I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥