“We see a future where intelligence is a utility, like electricity or water & people buy it from us on a meter.”
- Sam Altman
As someone whose books were taken without permission to train OpenAI, I have a problem with this.
How can a company claim to own work it didn’t create & sell it back to us?
@mcahalane
Ah, welcome to the wonderful work of intellectual property.
Where things like thoughts that you might have independently become illegal.
No matter if it's a specific algorithm, or a character or the plot of movie.
The funny thing is that the propaganda suggests that the creative professionals profit most from these, but generally it's the big corporations that profit most.
@Sheril
@mcahalane
Note that the availability of powerful enough LLM literally puts the finger on some absurdities of IP law: it's kind of impossible with only the output to tell if it was created by a LLM or an goo human.
Compare to the issue was it created by human A or human B. Notice how in the cases we generally do try to solve the issue but comparing circumstances and not by analysing the style of the output to guess who was the creator.
@Sheril
@mxk @Sheril yes, it's encoded in the system. the other example is the air travel industry. make basic experiences so convoluted and frustrating that ppl pay for what used to be basic and call it "basic PLUS". (exactly what's happening w/ internet search ATM).
What this system used to be based on (at least in the US) is a sort of societal contract that was like "we're OK with this as long as services improve on the whole". Breaches in these contracts tend to lead to revolts, that hit profits
@Sheril Genuinely, we should have seen this coming as far back as Aaron Schwartz, if not earlier. We've normalized journals selling papers back to the universities and governments that paid for the research, for longer than I've been alive. Of course some other dogshit capitalists would take note of that easy money, like Hitler watching the public acceptance of the Armenian genocide.
The rot isn't new. We're just seeing it from new angles, angles which make it feel blatant for what it is.
@daniel @Sheril in general, it is this type that chooses not to understand, and consequently to intentionally or deliberately exploit, the distinction between paying for applied skills versus time spent on a project.
Do it well and swift? You are overpriced. Do it well but slow? Your are overrated. In general, these types are the core proponents of applying a competence tax; they provide no tangible value beyond the incarnation of biological middleware.
His propaganda is but one of many sins.
How much does a genuine human thought cost? How much is its worth, what is its value? The whole basis of AI and LLM is based on previous knowledge built by generations of human beings. That cannot be own by anyone as it is our human heritage, a gift from previous generations to us all.
Making that your own is a theft, a crime against all of us.
And they’ll sell us sunlight, air, and water too if we let them.
This is the return to true age of "American Greatness". Robber Barons of the 21st Century.
@Sheril this can't be emphasized enough.
They're nothing but thieves and grifters. Governments and law institutions are doing almost nothing. All in the name of "progress." Altman and the other snake oil merchants keep promising them things they don't understand. And instead of surrounding themselves with knowledgeable people, they just buy the fools gold, no questions asked, either hoping it's real or scared they'll be left behind if they don't.
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@Sheril this is highlighting the flaws of copyright and intellectual property laws once more. Seeing this reminds me how Google and all the others got away with the same.
What we really need is an international Reform of these laws that remove the options to circumvent legal requirements with the most money and political influence, and prevent uneven laws bring put into effect favoring the "big guys".
And speaking to each other will be banned as it will be viewed as sharing information off grid. If they can’t make money, it can’t be allowed.
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