K.J. ElphinstoneAutistic people often show things up as taboos by inadvertently saying them.
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🌸 Vårgubben@KatyElphinstone So her in Sweden we have this little girl named Greta (who's actually in her early twenties now) who is openly autistic. She keeps saying that we need to change our socioeconomic model, and go from a "growing" economy to a sustainable one, or it will all will go very very bad (yes, really everything, all of it).
Would this be an example of a thing "You cant say!"? Because if it is, then I hope she never learns, and neither should we.
Owl Eyes@jordgubben @KatyElphinstone I agree with her sentiment, and I wish we could do this. There's an unsolvable paradox here though. Just as Autistic people would like to be accepted for who they are, guess what, there are other personality types besides the Autistic, who want to be accepted for who _they_ inherently are. Fair is fair, right?
I've been studying the extremely complicated patterns to Narcissistic personality trait for a long time. Their personality - remember, we have to accept it, out of fairness, right? - all but dictates that they cannot accept the "fairness" and "sustainability" she proposes. To them - narcissists - it's a "zero-sum" game. It *must* be a competition, to gain the most, no matter whose expense it's at. This is how "narcissistic supply" works - there must always be a fresh supply. Here's an analogy: one can't postulate that vampires somehow don't need to drink blood anymore. Yes they must have it - that's inherent to being a vampire.
The conundrum in a nutshell: *She postulates accepting their nature, just she postulates Austic people having their nature accepted*. To a narcissist: if any fools (the psychologists call them "flying monkeys") allow themselves to be taken advantage of, narcissists see it as the universe's gift to them - it was _supposed_ to be their gain, and they don't see any downside to this, because their success is deeply felt as a self-evident proof that it's inherently correct and true.
So alas, this conundrum is inescapable, as there is no magic wand which can be waved to make Narcissism disappear. If we postulate acceptance of Autism, then shouldn't we also accept Narcissism, no matter how toxic? Our society can't change its course: it effectively must be a toxic competition - there's no turning it off, to have a so-called "sustainable economy" instead.
@KatyElphinstone @d1 This is more of a segway than a direct response, but I'd like to hear your take on this.
I find it interesting how #autism and #narcissism differ in how they are processed by our society.
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In this day an age every single school in the western world has been equipped with the latest laser detectors for #neurospicy tendencies in youth. This ensures that any divergence from the norm, with picometer precision, will be caught, diagnosed, medicated, and move to the special process track in order to ensure their future compatibility and complacency to the hegemonic capitalist machine. No expense is saved to fix, suppress, or even maim (e.g. over medicate) if deemed necessary".
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For #narcissism there seems to be nothing. No screening, not treatment, not even a prevalent discourse. As if was not even a problem to solve; as if it almost did not exist.
I can't help suspect it's because this group are so useful in #kyriarchy systems of control.
The excessive need to "climb the ladder", and the lack of genuine empathy, make them excellent managerial class construction material.
Just add "career prospects" and you have yourself a useful little 'smug pawn'.
lizzzzard@jordgubben it's just not even seen as a defect, because in our society, we glorify it. But you're right, we should use school to detect narcissists early and discourage all narcissistic behavior. And screen teachers for it!
@jordgubben I had actually never thought about how ADHD and autism are now regularly noticed at school, while narcissism isn't even discussed. Thanks for pointing that out.