#PSA: #Flirting is like playing #Jenga, and a lot of people don't know how to play Jenga either.

If you're not familiar with Jenga, here's my description: Jenga is a *cooperative*, turn-based game, in which you and one or more willing partners attempt to build anticipation until someone gets too flustered and spills the pieces.

The win condition is:"How long can we maintain that state *just* before the tower falls—when everyone is on the edge of their seats, leaning in, wide-eyed and holding their breath?"

The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. As tension builds, everyone gets more involved in the game, and when the tower finally topples—regardless of who knocked it over—it should be exciting, fun for everyone, and involve positive aftercare; that's what makes people happy they played with you (and want to play another round).

Some mistakes I see people making when they play:

- forcing the game; not everyone wants to play with you—respect that.

- making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you *can* make an early goblin move that'll destabilize the tower in the hopes of a quick topple, but if your only goal is to spill blocks, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

- trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to knock the tower over—don't use them—folx won't want to play with you.

- dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear, and if you knock the tower down, as long as y'all're having fun playing, there's nothing stopping you from picking right back up and starting another round.

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Some mistakes I see people making when they flirt (or engage in any social interaction):

- forcing the interaction; not everyone is open to that kind of attention—respect that.

- making "big dick" moves to speed the game up; sure, you can open with a dick pic or a wolf-whistle, but if your goal is to flirt *at* someone, it's better if you just play with yourself at home.

- trying to get the other person to lose; there are plenty of sneaky ways to make the other person more likely to sleep with you—don't use them—that's coercion at best, and quite possibly sexual assault.

- dragging out your turn because you're too afraid to "lose"; it's not as bad as you fear. If you're genuine, and playing because you want the *other* person to have fun, then most folx will be flattered you made that effort, even if they're not interested in playing a full round.

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"How do I let someone know I want to play with them?"

> Try complimenting them on something they *put effort into*—"Those are amazing earrings!"

"How do I do that without feeling creepy?"

> Smile, say it, and disengage. If they're receptive, they'll engage you.

"How do I know what to say?"

> Most people are pretty interesting, and most people who want to be interacted with will put out bids for interaction, so look for cues. Are they wearing a cool t-shirt? Is their hair dyed? Have they smiled at you more than once (and you're not a customer)?

"Yeah, but really, how do I know what to say?"

> The game is played by taking turns poking around for a good piece and then making a move. Each move raises the stakes *just a little bit*. When they take a turn, they'll often leave an opening just for you. If they don't, they might also be bad a Jenga, or they're not really into playing with you right now.

"Can you give me examples?"

> Sure.

You're in line at a grocery store, and there's a cute person in line next to you, so you wait until *one* of you is leaving the line. "Your hair is amazing; I love that color blue 😊", then you go back to what you were doing. If they want to play, they'll say something like "thanks, I just dyed it! 🩵" and then wait for you to take your turn again; if they don't want to play, they might just say "thanks" and disengage. If it's your turn again, you might respond "did you have it professionally done? I've been meaning to redye mine 😅" Now it's their turn to respond.

Of course your turns will look different, but each one should take a cue from your partner, and also volunteer a possible move for them to make on their turn.

"My games keep fizzling out, how do I keep them lively?"

> Look for their cues, and leave your own cues for them. Co-op games are about helping your teammates so you can all have the most fun, and *anyone* feels awkward when they don't know what they should do on their turn, so don't leave them hanging.

"How do I let someone know I'd like to play again sometime?"

> Tell them. "I really enjoyed talking to you 😊 and I'd like to do it again if you're interested. Can I give you my Mastodon handle?". If they look confused, just say you're a friend of @alice; that'll probably work.

#Dating #Socializing #Anxiety

@alice I am going to give random strangers my handle of mastodon in the supermarket
@autisticplushy @alice Do it at the bike rack and you might get some in return.

@WhiteCatTamer @autisticplushy @alice

The name's Mastodon . . . John Mastodon.

@dusk @WhiteCatTamer @autisticplushy @alice

we know, but early on, say 3 yrs ago or so, there was also a Joan Mastodon, and she was really attractive. You want her number?

@autisticplushy @alice I printed Moo MiniCards for the first time in 12 or so years, with my email/Mastodon/Flickr/Signal details. They were a combination of cool* photos I took and photos of my cat; I had to get another box done with just my cat, as her ones went quickly.

I’m half-seriously considering getting a button badge made up reading “No I’m not on Instagram”

@acb @alice "im not like other creatures"
@alice

I'm awful at flirting AND jenga. So I think this is pretty spot on.
@wyatt @alice I am too.

@Aaron_Davis @wyatt 🫂

The only folx I've seen who are *really* bad at flirting are the ones who treat it like a zero-sum game, or the ones who are poor sports when they don't "win".

@alice @Aaron_Davis @wyatt
“Put a smile on your kisser and maybe someone will put a kiss on your smiler.” I smile when making eye contact and receive one in return most of the time. Not trying a pickup just being pleasant to everyone that I encounter.

@stevewfolds @alice @Aaron_Davis @wyatt

i 🖤 that saying, never heard that before (i grew up in a minority language country), i am going to use that. unless you made that up, & won't give me consent? 🫡😏☺️

@poisonpunk @alice @Aaron_Davis @wyatt
It is old and not mine. Use it and may good things happen.
@alice That is perhaps the most charged description of Jenga that I have ever read. Kudos!

@alice Oh my gods are you saying people who compliment my hats or pins are potentially opening up to flirt at me?

Like, I know they might not be, but. Wow. Okay. That's eye opening. And fun.

@Bel_tamtu yes, though I'd say "*with* you". Not always, but it's a great indicator that they want to interact with you.
@alice With me, yes, with me. That is what I meant tow ritw but obviously not what came out. xD
@Bel_tamtu @alice I get compliments on my hair all the time, but I don't think most of those people are interested in flirting. This might be a WLW problem; I'm pretty sure the men who say things like that might want to flirt, but women seem to just be generically friendly.
@eruonna @Bel_tamtu @alice “*waking up together in bed in your shared home after a decade of marriage* I don’t know, women are just friendly in general…” 🤭
@crowbriarhexe @Bel_tamtu @alice how dare you see me
@eruonna @Bel_tamtu @alice I like seeing you 💖
@crowbriarhexe @Bel_tamtu @alice that sounds suspiciously like flirting. So I imagine you are just being friendly 😅

@eruonna @crowbriarhexe @Bel_tamtu @alice

💯 flirting going on in this thread. and great entertaining thread here for us bystanders 😆

@crowbriarhexe @eruonna @Bel_tamtu @alice “…honey? Are we just…roommates?”
“Can we not have this conversation when I’m inside you…FOR ONCE??”

@WhiteCatTamer "...but I didn't want to overstep any of your boundaries" she says while straining against the cuffs.

"Sweetheart 💁🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️"

@crowbriarhexe @eruonna @Bel_tamtu

@alice @crowbriarhexe @eruonna @Bel_tamtu
The now-near-homicidally queer supporting priest staring at me from the altar when I ask him if maybe this means she like, REALLY likes me, or something:

@eruonna if their orientation likely excludes your gender, you're *probably* right that they're just being friendly, but you might also be surprised.

I've ended up dating men and women, gay and straight, and many who didn't fit one of those neat categories—sometimes to both our surprise.

⚠️ This is not to say their orientations weren't what they said they were, or that you can "change" someone (there's no sex *that* good), but that attraction is messy and weird sometimes.

Also, you have lovely hair 😊

@Bel_tamtu

@alice @eruonna @Bel_tamtu people's guesses of others' sexuality is wrong all the time, too. I think when I flirt with women, especially cis women outside of sapphic specific spaces, they usually just assume I'm being friendly. Once I mentioned a girlfriend and my coworker looked at me with a lot of confusion for a sec before going "OH, you're BI!" 🙄 I don't even like men.

@raphaelmorgan as a pansexual nonbinary tomboy, things are both straightforward and very much not.

"Am I into you?"
Maybe.

"Are you into me?"
Maybe.

"Does that make someone's labels confusing?"
Probably.

"Does it matter?"
Probably not, as long as we're all happy with it.

@eruonna @Bel_tamtu

@alice

That's the fun thing about labels really. They're identities you vibe with, not restrictions on your experiences or behavior. I mean, even though the labels I use for myself (lesbian trans woman) are "narrower" than yours, I still find that little dialog relatable and in some ways optimal.

@raphaelmorgan @Bel_tamtu

@eruonna have I told you lately that I like you?

@raphaelmorgan @Bel_tamtu

@alice

You may not have phrased it exactly like that recently, but I’m very glad to hear it 💜 I like you too

@raphaelmorgan @Bel_tamtu

@eruonna we should, like, have a date sometime 😉

@raphaelmorgan @Bel_tamtu

@alice I do seem to recall us being pretty good at those.

@raphaelmorgan @Bel_tamtu

@alice @raphaelmorgan @eruonna @Bel_tamtu

💯 agree my sibling 😊 :heart_pansexual

@alice

I love this analogy.

Great explanation for how much/most/alot of effective #HumanInteraction should be conducted.

@alice

Alice, "Jenga as Relationship Advice" is absolutely fucking inspired. Well bloody done, you!

And by the way, get that published. It's def good enough.

@alice top quality post ❤️
@alice It makes perfect sense! 😮
@Aaron_Davis Leonard seems like the kind of guy who makes "big dick" moves, either because it's a low effort way of swinging for a payoff and he's playing a numbers game, or because he expects rejection and wants to reinforce his worldview. Either way 😬 that character has a lot of red flags (in the like 3 episodes of that show I've watched).
@alice Yeah I can see that. He also tries to get other people to lose by being sneaky. (Like in one episode, he lies to Stuart in order to sabotage his date with Penny.)
@alice Yeah I know. And don't even get me started on Howard. 🤢 🤮

@Aaron_Davis
(not judging)

Husband and I already weren't fans of the show, then this pair of video essays made us anti-fans:

- https://popculturedetective.agency/2017/the-adorkable-misogyny-of-the-big-bang-theory

- https://popculturedetective.agency/2017/complicit-geek-masculinity

@alice

@toolbear I haven't watched those (but I think I will, thanks 😊), but yeah, that show had so much wrong with it. As someone who both is and writes about being autistic, their portrayal of ASD in Sheldon (which I don't think they ever put an actual name to) was really gross.

@Aaron_Davis