Any recommendation for #SelfHosting a web app, useable on mobile as well as desktop for two people to collaborate making notes with basic WYSIWYG text formatting?

The purpose is to help us maintain notes for #renovation and #refurbishment of our home. We're mostly apart so I think it would help being able to edit a list of documents. Say one per room, and for things like lighting, heating, #HomeAutomation etc.

Anyone done this?
#HomeLab #HomeAssistant

@happyborg How about #Joplin?
@t0maz That looks very nice but they've made the server closed source. Shame, but profits > people in business.
@happyborg @t0maz No way! Bummer, that sucks to hear.

@BenjaminNelan

@t0maz is correct. The server code is open and may be used non commercially. It's quite strict though, as I suspect many personal use cases could be argued to create value and therefore a 'profit' ("not use the Software to generate profits of any kind". See:
https://github.com/DavideRutigliano/joplin-server/blob/dev/packages/server/LICENSE.md )

I'm not sure this as a risk for my use case in practice, but worth considering.

joplin-server/packages/server/LICENSE.md at dev · DavideRutigliano/joplin-server

Joplin - the privacy-focused note taking app with sync capabilities for Windows, macOS, Linux, Android and iOS. - DavideRutigliano/joplin-server

GitHub

@BenjaminNelan @t0maz

I'm veering away from #Joplin because I'm not clear if there is a useable web app. There's a beta repo last updated 2yrs ago, but I don't see the source in the main packages directory. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

The point of self hosting is somewhat lost if you have to use their native apps, particularly on mobile, especially now Google is enclosing Android.

Important goals for me are privacy and avoiding enshitification traps which are rapidly worsening.

@happyborg @BenjaminNelan @t0maz

If you find a webapp, it will run in a browser ... vetted by Google. So what have you accomplished?

But you can consider #TiddlyWiki . Launch it from tiddlystow (https://btheado.github.io/tiddlystow/v2/ ) in your chromium-based browser and you have webapp-like tool. Use syncthing to share it with your other devices.

Tiddlystow put saver

@number6
If you're saying that a web app is no more secure and private than a native app (because Google make a browser and are trying to control the web), I'm pretty sure you are wrong now and for the medium term.

You might be right one day but plenty of us work to prevent that, which is exactly why it is important to do what I'm doing.

If I've misunderstood, please explain.
@BenjaminNelan @t0maz

@happyborg @BenjaminNelan @t0maz

The browser is an app. The Joplin app is an app. Not sure I see the distinction.

But the important point was to look at #TidldlyWiki , if you want something that is app-free, runs anywhere.

@number6
Ok thanks for clarifying, but your premise is false because not all apps are the same.

Tiddlywiki + syncthing (et al) have some advantages I agree, but are not well suited to my use case (eg setting up on every device, including mobiles versus sharing a link and having a sign up/login process that anyone can do without me). There are more but that's enough for my use case.

I do appreciate the suggestion though, thanks.
@BenjaminNelan @t0maz

@happyborg I believe #Joplin server source is open but usage is limited to non-commercial?
@t0maz ok, I'll check that.

@happyborg @t0maz we use Joplin by storing the data files in nextcloud and sharing the folder.

Although i guess just nextcloud notes could work!

@happyborg @t0maz where did you find this? At least current 3.6.1 is available as source: https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/releases/tag/server-v3.6.1