ᴮᵉⁿ ᴿᵒʸᶜᵉVOTE IN THE PRIMARIES"Polls close in high-stakes Hungarian #election as #Magyar seeks to oust #Orbán"
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Lord HeeHaw II@JustRobForNow @evoterra @benroyce I like the Australian system (I think STV), other than compulsory voting. Not voting can also be a statement of political choice, even if it is too often abused.
@hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
not voting is for morons
Mamdani v Cuomo
Magyar v Orban
HELLLOOOOOO???
@benroyce @JustRobForNow @evoterra To vote or not to vote . . . . I stand by my statement. And while I support a very large proportion of what @benroyce says, I think it would improve his viewpoint of electoral democracy if he were to be able to stop viewing the exhibition in the lobby only through the US letterbox. When there are 30 candidates, and none of them are worth a vote, then it's a tad hard to label the non-voter a moron. It's not always a simple strategy game.
@hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
a nonvoter is a fucking moron
100%
always
perfect doesn't exist
you pick the person closest to you and iterate
that is the only way you improve the world
not choosing only means "i don't care"
and if someone doesn't care, considering the issues we are facing today, fuck such a piece of shit
Wokerati@benroyce @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
I can see both sides of this argument, because it implies an understanding of politics that billionaires spend billions trying to prevent normies from understanding.
For instance trump being 'anti-war', it was obviously BS, but it was also stronger then any statement made by Kamala on Palestine.
Parties also need to earn votes and not just rely on gaining support for being the least worse option.
@wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
it's not true the democrats suck therefore leftists don't vote
the truth is the left doesn't vote, therefore the democrats suck
"i'm going to wait until centrist corporatist assholes magically turn into leftists, then i'll vote" is just a stupid joke
you vote, in the primaries, and replace them
that's the way it works
looking to the democratic establishment as your cue before acting is bullshit. ignore them. replace them
proof:
mamdani
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@benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra Old grumpy guy comments.... everyone makes this too complicated.
1. US Leadership sucks (any disagreement?)
2. Both major political parties are complicit (any disagreement?)
3. You think things should be better (any disagreement?)
If 1-3 make sense... then do something, do anything just don't sit on your ass (excuse my French).
Have a nice day and stop whining.😉
Tody Motmot@ManyRoads @benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
Hell no. I like the fact Dems fought against MAGA. Giving more people healthcare, letting the FBI do its job and go after sex traffickers, and stopping genocides is not complicit.
I really don't care how much the mainstream news led by billionaires told you to hate the people who were trying to raise taxes on the rich.
You're working to amplify MAGA's propaganda without even stopping to think. You're not helping.
@todymotmot @ManyRoads @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
ManyRoads is asking us to fucking do something. That's all that matters
I don't give a fuck what rationale people use to get off their asses and lose their ineffectual entitled nonvoting cynical weak whining
As long as they do
@benroyce @ManyRoads @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
Yeah I want people to do something too, but we cannot overlook genocidal language.
People worried more about how Harris's messaging made them feel than stopping a genocide.
Now tens of millions are dead and dying, including Palestinians, because people wanted Dems to make them feel good, not do the hard work of stopping our genocidal nation.
We have to break the cycle - judge politicians on action, not MSM vibes.
@todymotmot @ManyRoads @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
the responsibility to break it is not on dem leadership. #1: dem leadership sucks. #2: it's on the fucking losers out there who can't think rationally about their voting power
we just vote and replace them
that people don't understand this, and that they believe their agency to act is somehow bound to people they should be giving no thought to, just replacing, is simply a story of stupidity, entitlement, and laziness