Polls close in high-stakes Hungarian election as Magyar seeks to oust Orbán

A Tisza victory could lead to an overhaul in relations between Budapest and Brussels.

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@benroyce

“As voting closed at 7 pm, turnout stood at 77.8%…”

That’s amazing. Meanwhile, in this dystopian society, that’s the percentage who can’t be bothered to vote.

Here’s to changing that in 2026.

100 days before #Arizona #primates!

@evoterra @benroyce
In Australia that turnout would be considered disastrous & prompt an investigation into what went wrong & how to fix it.
Make voting easy, proportional & compulsory.
@JustRobForNow @evoterra @benroyce I like the Australian system (I think STV), other than compulsory voting. Not voting can also be a statement of political choice, even if it is too often abused.

@hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

not voting is for morons

Mamdani v Cuomo

Magyar v Orban

HELLLOOOOOO???

@benroyce @JustRobForNow @evoterra To vote or not to vote . . . . I stand by my statement. And while I support a very large proportion of what @benroyce says, I think it would improve his viewpoint of electoral democracy if he were to be able to stop viewing the exhibition in the lobby only through the US letterbox. When there are 30 candidates, and none of them are worth a vote, then it's a tad hard to label the non-voter a moron. It's not always a simple strategy game.

@hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

a nonvoter is a fucking moron

100%

always

perfect doesn't exist

you pick the person closest to you and iterate

that is the only way you improve the world

not choosing only means "i don't care"

and if someone doesn't care, considering the issues we are facing today, fuck such a piece of shit

@benroyce @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

I can see both sides of this argument, because it implies an understanding of politics that billionaires spend billions trying to prevent normies from understanding.

For instance trump being 'anti-war', it was obviously BS, but it was also stronger then any statement made by Kamala on Palestine.

Parties also need to earn votes and not just rely on gaining support for being the least worse option.

@wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

it's not true the democrats suck therefore leftists don't vote

the truth is the left doesn't vote, therefore the democrats suck

"i'm going to wait until centrist corporatist assholes magically turn into leftists, then i'll vote" is just a stupid joke

you vote, in the primaries, and replace them

that's the way it works

looking to the democratic establishment as your cue before acting is bullshit. ignore them. replace them

proof:

mamdani

@benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra Old grumpy guy comments.... everyone makes this too complicated.
1. US Leadership sucks (any disagreement?)
2. Both major political parties are complicit (any disagreement?)
3. You think things should be better (any disagreement?)

If 1-3 make sense... then do something, do anything just don't sit on your ass (excuse my French).

Have a nice day and stop whining.😉

@ManyRoads @benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

Hell no. I like the fact Dems fought against MAGA. Giving more people healthcare, letting the FBI do its job and go after sex traffickers, and stopping genocides is not complicit.

I really don't care how much the mainstream news led by billionaires told you to hate the people who were trying to raise taxes on the rich.

You're working to amplify MAGA's propaganda without even stopping to think. You're not helping.

@todymotmot @ManyRoads @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

ManyRoads is asking us to fucking do something. That's all that matters

I don't give a fuck what rationale people use to get off their asses and lose their ineffectual entitled nonvoting cynical weak whining

As long as they do

@benroyce @ManyRoads @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

Yeah I want people to do something too, but we cannot overlook genocidal language.

People worried more about how Harris's messaging made them feel than stopping a genocide.

Now tens of millions are dead and dying, including Palestinians, because people wanted Dems to make them feel good, not do the hard work of stopping our genocidal nation.

We have to break the cycle - judge politicians on action, not MSM vibes.

@todymotmot @benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra

If I may... (share old guy thinking). Here's how I look at things (excuse the aphorisms borrowed and created).

- Perfect is the enemy of good.
- Good is the enemy of better.
- Never confuse better with good or perfect.
- Never sacrifice better for nothing.

✅ Always remember inaction is an action! It is an action of surrender and cowardice.

@todymotmot @benroyce @wokerati @hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra If you need current pointers to the insidious nature of passivity:

"Newly-Elected Hungarian PM Says Orbán Was Paying CPAC, Calls It a ‘Crime’ That ‘Will Have to Be Investigated’"

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/newly-elected-hungarian-pm-says-040115976.html

Newly-Elected Hungarian PM Says Orbán Was Paying CPAC, Calls It a ‘Crime’ That ‘Will Have to Be Investigated’

Péter Magyar, the Hungarian Prime Minister-Elect, announced that outgoing Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's government had been paying CPAC, but he would put an ...

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