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funnymonkeyYup. Instead of blaming people on the receiving end of bad services, why not -- hear me out here -- demand better services?
Worth noting RE Estonia - they have also been ahead of the curve on disinformation.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220128-the-country-inoculating-against-disinformation
and
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220128-the-country-inoculating-against-disinformation
It is not surprising they would have a better response around dealing with big tech than most.
JT Leskinen@funnymonkey 83 youth researchers released a statement with a similar message last week. Our government is thinking about a social media ban for youngsters, so it had to be done.
@milesizdead The parallels between privacy protections -- which always devolve to blame the user rather than hold the companies accountable -- are so striking.
I'd love to see us get this right.
Bruce Simpson, Ph.D.@funnymonkey @milesizdead I don't think that the real violence has even started yet.
Tim Finnerty@funnymonkey Certainly regulate big (US) tech, but is that enough?
Koen Hufkens, PhD@funnymonkey Sadly teens don't have a big enough lobby in Brussels.
Misuse Case@funnymonkey @aslakr Yes, Estonia! They are also a model for building and delivering good digital government services - it’s possible with enough political will.
luca@funnymonkey
I made a wild guess.
Suppose you want to collect more information in Europe, stealing everyone's data as you already do in the US. Then you go to a smart device manufacturer's in the US and say: "you're devices are widespread everywhere, we have a good idea to let you stay in business. Start with an ex-European country, an almost ex-ally. Enforce adult verification, you know that now or later it will be rule. Then collect all the data for us. This is a one time offer"
I made a wild guess.
Suppose you want to collect more information in Europe, stealing everyone's data as you already do in the US. Then you go to a smart device manufacturer's in the US and say: "you're devices are widespread everywhere, we have a good idea to let you stay in business. Start with an ex-European country, an almost ex-ally. Enforce adult verification, you know that now or later it will be rule. Then collect all the data for us. This is a one time offer"
@funnymonkey partially agree. Yes big tech need regulating but the users need to take some responsibilty too.
Before SM the problem was games, DVDs, streaming... the "it is someone else's fault" is not always true and too many people are addicted to screens.
J$@funnymonkey They are not “bad”, in the sense of “poorly done”, they’re bad in the sense “malicious”. By design, at the core, as a consequence of the business model.
Nobody should be exposed. They can not be fixed. They must be stopped. Period.
RichRARobiAt last! A leadership with sense.
xs4me2Basically she states the obvious indeed… we should sue big tech for harassment of children.
Drey
AskPippa🇨🇦@funnymonkey Or how having certain devices be allowed for kids 16 and under, and later they can graduate to devices for grown-ups.
Kid's devices, say phones, basically don't have internet access. Like the Light Phone someone developed.
Not sure how that could work with computers, but I'm sure some smart people could design something that could work as a safe kid computer.
Like moving from bicycles to cars.
Kid's devices, say phones, basically don't have internet access. Like the Light Phone someone developed.
Not sure how that could work with computers, but I'm sure some smart people could design something that could work as a safe kid computer.
Like moving from bicycles to cars.
@funnymonkey I think there's a lot that could be improved by regulating big tech (e.g. stronger privacy protections, banning dark patterns in interfaces), but when governments talk about "protecting kids", they're usually talking about making it easier for the government to spy on private communications to the detriment of free speech, so I think it's important to be on guard for that. I hope that's not what Estonia is trying to do.
@eanopolsky Good point.
Yeah - strong encryption with no backdoors is table stakes.
Rixer@funnymonkey blame politicians from profiting from COVID, I mean “mismanaging” COVID, for allowing businesses to see how much they can get away with, and keep doing it, like having 1 person do 3 peoples jobs and getting society burnt out on purpose, while having less jobs.
Massi Alvioli@funnymonkey what social media provide is not a service - service to whom? Everything they do is for their own good, and we have the right to keep our kids from them.
Larry
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@funnymonkey
Any social media age restriction should be the onus of the companies involved.
@Paulatics
Any social media age restriction should be the onus of the companies involved.
@Paulatics
LM Little@funnymonkey Stupid governing party in #Canada wants #surveillance of kids rather than regulating Big Tech. #Neoliberalism coupled with #surveillanceCapitalism is a terrible thing. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-party-vote-on-social-media-age-restrictions-9.7159746
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Joel VanderWerf@funnymonkey What hurts children also hurts adults.
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@funnymonkey so true, but i think also they want control, in my opinion there a hiden ajenda here, power is control, if they know wo everyone is online, becouse they use the excuse is for children protection, they have a massive control on thr populations, and goverment love this.
TC Won't Give In To LiesOf course the answer, whether we are talking road safety, food safety or online safety is ...do both.
Some things should be banned, some age gated and always actively regulated.
@TCatInReality
The age assurance push is a data grab, and it's being pushed by major tech players.
The claims that age assurance is "for the kids" are lies. It's surveillance, wrapped in a disingenuous lie.
We have age verification in many parts of life. It's perfectly rational we have it online too.
But yes, in its presently unregulated state, techbros see (yet another) opportunity to grab data.
The answer is regulation with enforcement.