Keep these monstrosities off our roads 🙅♂️
"US carmakers have accused Brussels of keeping their largest pick-up trucks, including the Ford F-150, the Chevy Silverado and the Ram 1500, off European roads”
https://www.ft.com/content/3eb796fd-bcdb-4a9f-89b7-f7d5e692a3cd
They made seven/eight seat yet still smallish "station wagons" sixty years ago and I still see plenty of that format driving around now. Who is supposedly stopping anyone building those now, exactly?
Safety ratings. Tragically it's a key selling point that your toddler crushing wheeled machine will protect you against even against the most egregious driver of another toddler crushing wheeled machine.
With the airbags, crumple zones, motorised belts, you need perhaps 40 centimeters of extra bulk all around the "car".
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@jerrej @WestLawns I haven't found more than a handful of alterantives for: full EV, seven seats for adults, price below 65k € . The short list I have is Peugeot e5008 and Kia EV9…
Our current car is a Sharan, and if there was an EV version of it we'd probably go with that.
@mikaeleiman 6,35? That's just one cm shorter than my complete Fiat Ducato based campervan 😱 @fj
(Non paywalled ft article available at: https://archive.vn/rjBNl )
FWIW, the truck in the comparison with the Twingo is an F350.
I have an F150 Lightning EV and a VW Touareg TDI.
If I lived in a European city, I wouldn't have either. The Lightning in particular would just be a pain to live with there.
@fj incredible cultural insensitivity from Brussels, don't they know that the F150 is Ford's *smallest* truck in that line?
Edit: for context the f-350 is 6.8 m long and 2.4 m wide, it's a common vanity truck in the US, I often see them without a scratch and with no dirt as though they'd never left the pavement (ah, the link is for the f-350 so ok) 🤣
@wronglang @fj just checked what parking places (e.g. in cities, on the side of residential roads, etc.) are specced for here.
The whole parking space (with air, i.e. road, pedestrian path, other parking spaces on the side, not walls) is at least 2m wide and 3.35m long. This includes room for mirrors, to exit on the sides, and the front/back overhang when driving through to the kerb stop.
Your vehicle must fit into this, or you will find insufficient parking everywhere.
@mirabilos @fj I mean I drive an early 2010s Chevy Sonic because here a car is required to survive so you didn't have to convince me.
They really don't care about anybody else's use of space
@richlv @fj do you mean they are more dangerous due to the size and potential damage in an accident?
I am genuinely asking, because I come from a land in which having pick-ups is very common in rural areas for work and stuff, but not that common in urban environments, because surely nobody wants to drive that in narrow streets!
First and foremost: large vehicles are safer for the people in them, but much less safe for those around them. They crush smaller cars. Small children cannot be seen if close to the front. The headlights blind me when one of these is behind me in the road. They block sight lines. I think that wanting a big truck is basically anti-social.
This goes double for cybertrucks.
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