Trans feel good story:

An all trans masc team placed third in an iron man competition. They beat over 200 teams.

Trans mascs aren’t automatically worse than cis men at sports.

https://www.them.us/story/all-transmasc-ironman-team-wins-third-place

Transmasc Ironman Trio Won Third Place in a Relay, Beating Over 200 Other Teams

We love hopecore!

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@Melezioh oh, is that Schuyler!?!? Love him! Good for all of them! Great job, guys!
@Melezioh
Awesome, great job to those guys. I'm not much of a runner but will stick to throwing around roofing that's twice my weight.
@Melezioh Thanks for sharing. I'd seen that Schuyler was doing this but hadn't realised they'd come third!
@Melezioh Thanks, I absolutely needed a nice trans masc story 

@Melezioh

Do they call themselves transmasc ? Or are they transMEN ?

#TransMENAreMEN

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh most people use a space
Tall man
Bored man
Strong man
Trans man.

Trans folks are people. Missing out the space makes them seem more separate. Trans is just an adjective like any other.

@noodlemaz @Melezioh

#TransMENareMEN

An antiAFAB world hates AFABs who are MEN and try desperately to disrepect and dismiss the manhood of transMEN whilst having NO PROBLEM saying #TranswomenAreWomen

Even some trans women along with TERFs and cis gay men (I'm sad to say) have trivialised transMEN and make excuses for refusing to respect them as MEN

That's why I asked if these 3 people refer to themselves as 'masc' instead of men. Whether they refer to themselves as 'masc' or 'men' is up to no one else but these 3 people.

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh yeah I don't disagree with your overall point

I'm just saying your smushing together of the adjective 'trans' with the noun men (or women) is also quite dehumanising.

I.e. Using transmen/transwomen instead of trans men, trans women.

@noodlemaz @Melezioh

You can't be serious!

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh here's a discussion, if that helps. (My trans friends do not refer to themselves this way. Transphobes do though, all the time).
All the best
https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1db2als/usage_of_transwomen_and_transmen/

@noodlemaz @Melezioh

Oh and btw! I use transmen because the transpeople I love use transmen and transwomen. They 'smush' the words together.

I capitalise the 'men' part whenever I write and will continue to capitalise (transMEN) because I'm fed up with the attitudes towards AFABs of various gender identities but especially how soceity treat transMEN

This should finish it.

All because if a question? REALLY?

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh the answer to your question is in the article.

seriously. it is.

second fucking paragraph.

go and read it. the answer will surprise you.

@navi @Melezioh

Navi. Why are you so fucking offended by my asking the question?!

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh Because the answer is in the link that is right in front of you, and because your question read to me as if it was accusing the poster and/or the article of possible "subtle" misgendering.

In case you still haven't clicked through, two of the three are explicitly mentioned as being non-binary.

@navi @Melezioh

It's obvious that I was simply asking a question before I read the article! Not a big deal!

No one accusing anyone It's OBVIOUS!

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh

But why ask the question when the answer can be established, and is reasonably easy to assume as being answered, by reading the article?

Besides, now reading back, I note your hashtag as increasing the accusatory tone, and it also serving to (I'll assume accidentally) misgender non-binary folks who just as much, before clicking through, could be non-binary.

So, with the majority of the trio being named as such,

#NonBinaryPeopleAreNonBinary

@navi @Melezioh

No accusation and you know it!

This is a mountain made from a moe hill!

There 's no law on the books (even in the increasingly repressive UK ) that says I must read an article and I can not ask a question !

I simply asked how do they three peeople define THEMSELVES because of how the media and the wider soceity as a whole treats AFABs (whether they are nb, genderqueer, transmasc, or anything else)

I watched how soceity (including the LGBTQ community) treated several AFABs I loved dearly who are no longer on earth by their own hand, because of the way ppl treat #AFABs who are queer esp nonbinary and transMEN

So don't tell me what questions I can and cannot ask !!!

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh

No, I do not know it.

I do not care about laws, I care about social etiquette, and about ulterior motives. And it just does not make sense to ask a question about something you have not read, yet are able to understand.

You wanted to know how these three athletes define themselves? Why did you not check the article to see if that's in there? Let me make this even more clear for you:

The trio called themselves Team Iron Transmasc.

I have also seen my fair share of friends go for not being allowed to live as who they truly are, and I do not even have to invoke just one of the typical birth-gender assignments out of my ass for this.

I am not telling you what questions you cannot ask.
But you did not even check before, and your questions were insinuating something that was not happening, and thereby insinuated harm where there was none, and performed erasure of non-binary gender. And therefore, I respond to your question with indignation.

@MusiqueNow @Melezioh unsurprisingly, I am now blocked
@navi better off blocked. I blocked them just now.
@MusiqueNow @navi @Melezioh as a nonbinary trans guy i’m telling you to please just stfu. You could’ve just read the article. And this implication that the word transmasc is somehow disrespectful to trans men (when not everyone in the team was a binary trans man and they chose that label for themselves) reads as an exorsexist and transmedicalist dog whistle.
Most of all, i do not appreciate being called “an AFAB” at all, it makes me dysphoric and it’s something close to misgendering. To call transmasc people “AFABs” is saying that this is an inescapable essentialistic trait that we will always embody, that we will always be “AFABs” rather than our actual genders, rather than it being something that happened to us when we were born. I was afab, i am not afab, and I’m especially not an afab. How hard can it be to just let people celebrate this rare bit of trans joy?
@MusiqueNow @Melezioh I think that point is covered pretty well in the linked piece
@Melezioh I love this! Congrats to this joyful team who earned their victories.
@Melezioh
Sure, Mel, it sounds like good news until you realize that there were 2 teams that they DIDN'T beat.
I'm being sarcastic, of course.
Congratulations to this happy and capable team.
@Melezioh inb4 "insurmountable biological advantage" comes for trans men
@Melezioh oh gods, is this news story going to be the thing that prompts me to get back into triathlon
@Melezioh Thanks so much for this spot of joy! It really helped today. 🫂
@Melezioh finishing is a feat in itself. Third is awesome 😎