@lutindiscret

Scott found it problematic that some people on Mastodon pour hate in people's mentions instead of using block/mute.

The ones who want to pour hate didn't like that.

@haubles

@patrick_h_lauke

Lots of folks tried to point out why this didn’t actually make sense, I know I did, it seemed he got himself into a very reactive place emotionally and wasn’t able to understand other perspectives that were being shared.

@troed @lutindiscret @haubles

@stepheneb tbf he became the receiver of exactly the problem he brought up. Pure hatred, voiced out. I'd even claim @Gargron participated with the "puppy killing".

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@troed

I don’t think that was the initial problem he “thought” he was bringing up. But it sure seemed to become one for him.

And then seemed to be incapable of not digging a deeper and deeper hole.

That’s the part that makes me think he got lost in an emotional whirlpool which sometimes seems to make people think digging in deeper is going to somehow get them to a light at the end of a tunnel.

@Gargron @lutindiscret @haubles

@stepheneb

He indeed intended for the discussion to be around people who go spew hate at others instead of just blocking/muting what they don't like - it's not the first post along those lines.

The AI-haters on Mastodon just couldn't stand that _that_ was the example given - and so they proved Scott's point beyond a shadow of a doubt.

https://social.coop/@scottjenson/116332048950243664

@Gargron @lutindiscret @haubles

@troed @stepheneb @lutindiscret
The majority of the hate came from people saying I wanted more AI in Mastodon, or I was upset AI wasn't better treated (or whatever) which was exactly NOT what I wanted. I was using AI as an example of intolerance and the discussion became all about AI. (or that "tolerance lets in the nazis")

I'll totally own that my initial post was too vague and made too broad of a point. I'm not going to pretend I was perfect. But if someone started saying you wanted to let nazi's into mastodon, wouldn't you feel compelled to say "uh, no?"

@scottjenson

Your first post was confusing. You included a screenshot of a post by @carnage4life from Jan 5 and said: “but we'd *like* journalists to be here right? They aren't coming with examples like this!”

Why didn’t you quote post that? There was no link to Dare’s original post. I assume there was a thread because in that first post he didn’t seem to be saying anything terribly related to your post.

@troed @lutindiscret

@scottjenson

You ended your very first post with what seemed to me as a strange passive aggressive attempt at a guilt trip.

“They aren't coming with examples like this!”

OK, sometimes folks all caught up in their feelings start a thread that way … but I couldn’t see anything in the screenshot of Dare’s post that might have set you off???

And YES, starting a thread like that absolutely requires a quote post.

@troed @lutindiscret

@scottjenson

And you said you got the screenshot from bsky. A link to the thread might have provided more context for the highly emotional way you started the thread. Bsky threads about mastodon can get very snarky. That’s not usually the kind of considered conversation that’s useful to promote policy changes

@troed @lutindiscret

@scottjenson I can ask you directly then!

https://ohai.social/@s1m0n4/116365335929493735