@markwyner subverted in The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test... Ken Kesey (and the Furthur gang) is hanging out with some Hell's Angels and he says something negative about one of them. There's a big brouhaha 'cos you apparently can't say anything negative about Hell's Angels people. So Kesey says, "yeah, but I know Tiny" (the guy he dissed) and at the end of it all people were like (not verbally, but you know...) sure... I know where you're coming from...

@markwyner anyway, don't diss terry but also be careful if you want to dis Tiny.