Gaël Duval is the founder and president of the /e/ foundation along with the CEO of Murena. Duval and his organizations have consistently taken a stance against protecting users from exploits. In this video, he once again claims protecting against exploits is for only useful pedophiles and spies.
Translation to English:
> There's the attack surface, on that front we're not security specialists here, so I couldn't answer you precisely, but from the discussions I've had, it seems that everything
Transcription in French:
> Il y a la surface d'attaque, là pour le coup on est pas des spécialistes de la sécurité, donc je ne pourrais pas te répondre avec précision, mais des discussions que j'ai eu, il semblerait que tout ce qu'on fait, ça réduit la surface d'attaque. Donc oui, probablement ça aide. Par contre, on a pas une approche "sécurité durcie", on développe pas un téléphone pour les pédo(bip) pour qu'ils puissent échapper à la justice. Donc il y a pas des trucs pas possibles pour voir
Here are several particularly egregious examples:
Gaël Duval and Murena participated in these attacks. They even spread harassment content towards our team and shared it with sites attacking us.
Les téléphones Google Pixel équipés du système d’exploitation GrapheneOS permettent à des criminels de dissimuler leurs échanges. Johanna Brousse, magistrate spécialisée dans la lutte contre la cybercriminalité, explique quels sont les moyens de la justice pour contourner ce type d’outils.
/e/ and Murena have their own privacy invasive behavior in their apps and services. One particularly egregious example is their supposedly private speech-to-text service sending user data to OpenAI without consent instead of doing most locally like Apple:
https://community.e.foundation/t/voice-to-text-feature-using-open-ai/70509
Thank you a lot for your positive and supporting comments about our new /e/OS Voice-to-text! Regarding its implementation in /e/OS, I’d like to explain a few things to explain why we have chosen an OpenAI STT API to implement it and how it’s going to evolve in the future: What we have learned from our experimentations with STT models that run locally on the smartphone for speech recognition: they work quite poorly, they make a lot of mistakes in voice recognition they are not able to mix la...
Here's a paywall bypass for the 2 paywalled articles above:
These are among the most egregious cases of France's corporate and state media presenting highly inaccurate state smearing of GrapheneOS as fact but there's much more.
@GrapheneOS And this thing is old, for example, back when the first versions of Firefox were released, France had demanded versions of Firefox with significantly reduced security to allow law enforcement agencies to take remote control of it. I didn’t know about it at the time; I was too young, but I know it happened.
During the gradual transition to encrypting the web, France was reluctant and initially wanted to limit encryption to states websites and banks.
Surveillance by the French government has taken an even more aggressive turn since 2015, following the Charlie Hebdo attacks.
The GDPR has so far proven ineffective, and it is mainly due to the censorship and decisions of the Constitutional Council and the Court of Justice of the European Union that the French government is prevented from going further than it would like, but every year, it tries to circumvent these decisions.
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To be fair, Signal lies about their actual security, particularly regarding metadata protection.
Olvid, a French IM, arguably offers better privacy than Signal, by design. But they are French, so I don't trust them either for the reasons you listed in this thread.
@simplex is way ahead of Signal and Olvid, privacy/security-wise.
30(-ish) toots yesterday and today on /e/. Have you considered increasing the character limit per toot? Perhaps one longer toot (let's say, 1500 characters? 3000?) could summarise all your views on this topic?
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C'est dans la vidéo en tête de fil
Attached: 1 video Gaël Duval is the founder and president of the /e/ foundation along with the CEO of Murena. Duval and his organizations have consistently taken a stance against protecting users from exploits. In this video, he once again claims protecting against exploits is for only useful pedophiles and spies. Translation to English: > There's the attack surface, on that front we're not security specialists here, so I couldn't answer you precisely, but from the discussions I've had, it seems that everything
@GrapheneOS > /e/ and Murena have repeatedly claimed GrapheneOS is for drug dealers, pedophiles, terrorists and spies
Wow, they used the old tired canard practically verbatim. How pathetic.
@luckychronic @GrapheneOS https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/
They haven't announced the release date nor the phones that are getting GrapheneOS, only the partnership for now.
@GrapheneOS Le Parisien :
"Ces engins jusqu’à présent inviolés, qui protègent les communications et qui ne partagent pas les données sur les serveurs, sont un nouveau défi que le parquet cyber entend bientôt relever."
C'est exactement pareil avec Signal sur Android si on n'utilise pas le cloud, ils nous prennent pour des imbéciles.
The article is behind a paywall...
@claude_champagne Here's a paywall bypass for the 2 paywalled articles above:
The third one doesn't have a paywall and there are many more similar articles across other sites. We didn't want to link the ones where our team was personally targeted by a tech news site heavily misrepresenting our statements and adding up the total amount of tweets we posted over a week mainly as replies to questions to misrepresent as being on our main timeline.
@GrapheneOS This is clearly a smear campaign against the project.
Is there any chance this could seriously harm the project to the point of affecting the partnership with Motorola?
@bohwaz @joe_vinegar Ehm, the thread literally starts with a video? It's pretty clear who they are attacking.
Why are you defending a company that says "security is only for pedophiles and spies"?
@bohwaz @joe_vinegar Ok, I think we can at least agree that Gael Duval's statement implies that phones that do security hardening are for criminals and spies?
Now, next, which serious projects (not snake-oil security phone companies) focus on phone hardening?
So, in what way is he not attacking @GrapheneOS ?
(Perhaps ironically, he is also attacking iOS and Pixel OS, but that will whoosh past his audience, since most people do not know about Apple/Google's hardening efforts).
@bohwaz @joe_vinegar @GrapheneOS Put differently, he is using the "think of the children"-argument to attack anyone who has better privacy and security than them.
This effort to make security and privacy suspect puts them really in the same camp as the people using similar arguments for Chat Control, weakening cryptography, mandatory age verification, etc. They are amplifying this "security is only for bad people"-narrative.
Murena is *not* a privacy company.
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