Finnish sauna heat exposure induces stronger immune cell than cytokine responses

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23328940.2026.2645467#abstract

> A total of 51 adults (...) were exposed to a 30-minute session of acute FSB at a temperature of + 73°C

Woah, that seems like a lot for me. I can usually stand maybe 60ºC for like 10 maybe 15 min. I don't think I'd be able to stand 30 min under 73ºC.

73°C is a bit unusual cold for a Finnish sauna. Wikipedia says:

> The temperature in Finnish saunas is 80 to 110 °C (176 to 230 °F), usually 80–90 °C (176–194 °F)

And with that temperature, I think 10–15 minutes are pretty standard.

73°C isn't unusual. I checked out what's source for the Wikipedia article that says it's 80 to 110°C. Oddly it's a Chicago Tribune article from 1970. I don't think I ever visited a 110°C sauna.
Humidity is the key, Finnish style sauna is low humidity+ high temperature (85-115C is OK i think), while Russian banya-style is low temperature (60-80C with high humidity). Both of them produce about the same load on a human
Right, and Turkish-style hammam is 50C at 100% humidity. It's the only one I cannot stand.
My problem with turkish style hammam is that unless it's extremely well maintained it often smells of mold. When I went to some nice hammams in turkey, I didn't have that problem but outside of turkey, it's often unbearable.
That's interesting. I don't have much the habit of doing sauna, as you can likely tell, so I might have tried only high humidity saunas. I'll give it a try one day with low humidity if I find one.

This is one of the most famous public saunas in Finland: https://www.kotiharjunsauna.fi/en

If the temperature there is not close to 120°C, we are kind of disappointed.

Kotiharjun sauna | traditional finnish sauna | Harjutorinkatu 1, Helsinki, Finland

Kotiharjun sauna is the oldest existing public sauna for men and women in Helsinki. Wooden heated. Open every day exept mondays.

Kotiharjun Sauna
The sauna at my gym is regularly over 180F and I do 30 minute sessions. It is a dry sauna however, no steam.
In Finland we have old saying: "If liquor, tar and sauna won’t help, an illness is fatal"
Tar?

"Tar, acclaimed to have been formed from the sweat of Väinämöinen, a central character from the Finnish national epic Kalevala, was an important medicament to the former-day Finns. Tar actually did bear antiseptic features, which worked as a cure for infections. Lately tar has been recognised to include parts that can cause cancer, and the European Union has urged that its use should be avoided." [1]

I personally dont know how tar was used for health, but it was big export item of Finland during medieval times.

[1]https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbein...

Liquor, tar and sauna – excuse, myth or an option?

“JOS ei viina, terva ja sauna auta, niin tauti on kuolemaksi” is an old Finnish proverb basically meaning that if liquor, tar and sauna won’t help, an illness is fatal.

Helsinki Times
I think you can just replace it with Vaseline (Petroleum jelly) for 99% of the benefits
Tar. Specifically wood tar,
Pine tar is used in topical medicine for dermatology around the world I don't think it's limited to anywhere particular.

>mitigate the adverse effects of low socioeconomic status

Makes me wonder how much of it is Sauna, vs just the luxury of having the time to go do nothing for ~30 minutes.

I nearly made a screen time comment but you are right, its facility availability and travel time issue more than anything
Finland has saunas everywhere, having a sauna at home isn't even expensive average people have that, its just a cultural thing its like having a toilet at home it isn't something normal people can't afford.
No travel time. Most Finnish houses have a sauna built in.
I just cannot fathom comments like this. I’m preeetty sure that the vast majority of people spend half an hour a day doing nothing, in front of a screen of some type. How many people do you think there are there who don’t have thirty minutes of leisure time once per week?!
Fresh parents without relatives to help out.

Check out the screen time log for fresh parents.

I remember the first few months being so crazy. Feedings every two hours, and each feeding took an hour.

But still time for naps, short walks, etc. part of the survival was to work in little microbreaks when the baby was sleeping.

I've never read as much on my kindle as when my son was born. I didn't want to use my phone so any micro break was spent reading. Much harder to do now that my son is 4 years old, I'm less sleep deprived but there's less opportunities for micro breaks when I'm with him.
Huge difference between constantly being in passive alert mode waiting for the kid to wake up and cry their heart out, and proper uninterrupted “I know have x minutes for myself, no matter what” time.
If it's winter, put the baby in the pram outside, while you do a quick sauna session?
There's a world of a difference between being able to carve out 30 actually uninterrupted minutes (and realistically more; most people don't have a sauna in their home, so they'd need to spend some time getting there and back) and being able to zone out and stare at a screen for 30 minutes in bed or on public transit.

> and realistically more; most people don't have a sauna in their home

Most people have a sauna in their home, this is Finland.

Not having an hour of uninterrupted leisure time per day, never mind per week (most Finns don’t go to sauna every day) still sounds pretty unfathomable, except maybe in some specific circumstances like being a fresh single parent or similar. In any case, in Finland people go to sauna together with even fairly young kids (like 3+ years old), with breaks as needed of course, even most adults don’t usually spend thirty continuous minutes in a 80°C sauna.
Are you even living if you're not spending every single minute breathing and shitting your work and/or kids?
Doing nothing for 30 minutes does not release cytokines.
But it _will_ reduce cortisol, which is known to increase the likelihood of infections

Less doomscrolling, less bing watching of dumb Netflix series. Sensible working hours. And a society that doesn’t demand constant reachability when being off work.

It is not a luxury. It is living with common sense.

People with high socioeconomic status work much more and have less free time. It’s absurd to claim otherwise.
Citation needed
People with 2 minimum wage jobs have even less time.
how utterly disconnected from reality you are

All of these studies are always performed by Finns (or SE / DK / NO + maybe Russia).

I'd love to see this (and other sauna studies) replicated by someone somewhere to the south or hotter climates in general (southern Europe, Africa, hotter parts of Asia and the Americas).

It is hard to study this in a place with less access to saunas.
Saunas are very cheap to buy and/or build, certainly within the budget of an average research grant.
Ever heard of hamam?
I have not, what is it?
A steam sauna originating in Turkey, popular in many Arabic countries.
Sample size is tiny fwiw.