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VeeI will never understand why Americans are just taking it.
Alexander KarnEarnest question. What would “not taking it” look like for/to you?
Strike, revolution, take back the country before there's nothing to take back. There's suppose to be 3 more years of this...
Speaking only for myself, I would say that calculations are being made by Americans, both individually and collectively, about the current and likely distribution of pain and infringement of democratic rights and what course violence might take if the resistance were to change/escalate its tactics.
We may still see the things you call for here. We also might not, like other societies that found themselves at the mercy of illiberal bad actors.
I’ll add this. In addition to a history of complacency and atomization, the USA is huge (without an obvious political epicenter), and 350 million people makes it challenging to organize /undertake collective action.
8 million people mobilized for No Kings on Saturday. You’re right that’s not enough to constrain or dislodge the MAGA regime, but it’s not nothing either.
@xankarn
I know... but the 'it's too big' argument doesn't work. Many Americans live paycheck-to-paycheck in financial discomfort. If they keep working their regular jobs, they’ll be able to afford a living, but you’re not getting a general strike until true desperation and outrage happen. Massive unemployment, hyperinflation, and possibly martial law has been enacted or when the middle and working classes have missed 2-3 consecutive days of food.
We’re not there yet.
Well put. I think you’ve answered your own question here.
@xankarn oh I'm good at that.... it still drives me nuts though....🤣
I say this from a position of immense privilege, but, yes, each day this unfolds is excruciating.
@xankarn ...I don't doubt it...
Dumu The Void@VeroniqueB99 @xankarn @marynelson8
As @yogthos @NoahLoren13 @Alephwyr @anolandria @bluevelvet321 @tromo and @divinefloraloracle would say, ppl will only revolt when they get nothing to lose, when ppl see change won't come and they lost everything they hold dear.
That's why the West will only get its own Arab Spring, and the US becomes the Syria of the West when ppl lose all hope and see they can't be peaceful anymore...
TroikaFoxI don’t know either but I’m sure fear is a big part of it
yuhasz01@VeroniqueB99 Banality of evil.....normal looking snakes...
GJ Groothedde 🇪🇺@VeroniqueB99 That makes two of us.
whyOwy@VeroniqueB99 They think they're going to vote their way out of it.
@wyatt_h_knott exactly....😥
@VeroniqueB99 They'll find out. They'll vote, some faces will change, no policies will, and then they'll wait to vote some more.
@wyatt_h_knott that's IF they can vote and if the results aren't messed with.
@VeroniqueB99 They don't need to tinker with the voting machines. They've already gerrymandered the country, colleged up the electorate, and brainwashed the voters. "Messed with"??? 😆 😅 
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😬@wyatt_h_knott oh I didn't mean the machines (although in a pinch) I meant gerrymandering and the no married women vote etc...
@VeroniqueB99 everyone acting like SAVE act is the end of the world, and it likely is, but that doesn't acknowledge that Facebook and Fox have already done just about all the damage they need to do, and the gerrymandering and self-segregation of the mobile service industry society were already enough to get a pedophile elected twice, so I mean, yeah sure, Ill vote for Gavin Newsom or AOC or whoever you got but, you know, low expectations.
It's not just 1 thing... it's everything they're doing to fvck up elections in general. And yes, my expectations are very high either....
@VeroniqueB99 It's not just one thing but it IS propaganda heavy and they do propaganda because IT WORKS.
Jeff Mitchell@VeroniqueB99 They look like serial killers from the 80s.
Knut 🏳️🌈 🇳🇴🧸@VeroniqueB99 my gods, I have sandals older than these boys. And that's exactly what they are. I don't even think their balls have dropped. And these children were running DOGE? WOW!
@VeroniqueB99 That is terrifying.
Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesNot just Americans.
I maintain #doge will remain forever a stain on the #infosec and #systemadmin professions.
Physical compromise of sites was always the red line...
... And when the time came to deleting the drives and hiding the backups these "custodians" of #privacy and #security did nothing (with very, very few attempts).
They literally let the looters get away with the loot.
Shame!
@n_dimension oh! Thank you for putting it so well. I always wanted to but was lacking the right words for it. 👍 💯
Earthshine@n_dimension @VeroniqueB99 uh we sysadmins disavow any connection to those clowns.
@earthshine I sure hope you build a black list somewhere shared so that these POS will never work again....
Felis_Catus_Domesticus
Populace is at a nearly perfect 50% divide.
MAGATs don't want to admit they were wrong about Trump.
The usual gridlock (aka cowardice..) in D.C.
Zero leadership on issues from either side. Same things the Dems did in the 90's to shield Clinton. It's just the right's turn now to shield their guy and his crimes.
aaaannddd the public are idiots. That much has never changed.
midterms will be telling.. but probably not in a good way.. because.. ppl are fucking stupid.
@Felis_Catus_Domesticus 😬 i dunno about 'telling' but yeah....in a way.