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givesomefucks Apr 1

Picking a fight with Hasan Piker

Dude is insanely problematic…

Saying the party should toss values aside and just shut up and accept him because he’s twitch famous is fucking wild.

He’s a fucking nepo baby that got famous working for his genocide denying uncle. If he held half the values he claims to, he wouldnt have a multimillion dollar mansion and spend all his time raising his “brand awareness”.

Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:

The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here

How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician

You little fuckers are falling for the same grift boomers did with trump

Catoblepas Apr 1

Two people can suck at once. Maybe even three or more.

Care to elaborate on those supposed values us supporters are throwing aside?

givesomefucks 6d ago

Normally when someone asks a question, you’re more likely to get your question answered if you answer theirs first.

This is a part of basic social interaction often taught in preschool:

Like, for people who actually listen to this douche, take a second and think about what you hear more about:

The candidate he’s supposed to be helping here

How Hasan is smarter and knows more than any politician

You asked a question? Looks to me like you just made assumptions and spouted off about how smart you are, ironic really. Classic pot and kettle, which is always funny. Hasan isn’t perfect, but the dude has way more good takes than bad ones. I’m guessing he flamed you once and you’ve had a vendetta since?

givesomefucks 6d ago

I do want to congratulate you on not using any slurs this time.

Still comes off like how trump supporters talk tho, you’re not fooling anyone.

Good shit my guy. Username checks out.

Vupware Apr 1

Hassan is a charlatan

Goodeye8 6d ago

Charlatan or not it’s still fucking stupid to go after a twitch streamer instead of IDK going after the fascist administration. The only reason they’re going after Hasan is because Hasan is presenting an alternative to the “our hands are tied” politics of the democratic party. An alternative would be fine if it also served the corporate overlords of the democratic party but because his alternative is left-wing populism (you know, the stuff Mamdani ran on) it’s no good. Can’t give people hope for a better America.

jimmy90 6d ago

Charlatan or not

charlatan

the alternative of the charlatan is not good and nothing like mamdani

TotallynotJessica 6d ago

good thing he’s just a propagandist and not someone with stable political power. With an actual politician like Newsom, the stakes are much higher

givesomefucks 6d ago

it’s still fucking stupid to go after a twitch streamer

A candidate invited Hasan to a rally.

A few Dems said that’s not a good idea because he’s not helping candidates, he’s just increasing his own views.

Hasan and his fans never ever mention the candidate Hasan is supposed to be supporting

They change the entire conversation to “Dems don’t like Hasan”.

Do you legitimately not understand this is exactly what people warned about?

Is the twitch brain rot really so bad you can’t realize Hasan is proving everyone right?

A candidate invited Hasan to a rally.

Hasan and his fans never ever mention the candidate Hasan is supposed to be supporting

The candidate is Abdul El-Sayed who is running for Senate in Michigan. Don’t know where you’re getting that Hasan never mentions him, they had a whole interview and Hasan has spoken about him frequently since then.

A few Dems said that’s not a good idea because he’s not helping candidates, he’s just increasing his own views.

Hasan has a large platform that he lends to candidates to give them a boost. I guarantee you more people knew of Hasan Piker than Abdul El-Sayed before his interview. This idea that Hasan is just clout-chasing makes no sense. I don’t align 100% with his worldview but this whole thing is clearly just a smear campaign organised by Third Way because of Hasan’s advocacy for Palestine, opposition to the blockade on Cuba, and his efforts to get progressives elected in Democratic primaries.

tomiant 6d ago

I know nothing about the dude except his fucking shock collar dog and that’s allI need to know that I’m being manipulated somehow.

Vupware 6d ago

Oh 100%; there’s definitely some foul play and slandering going on. Still, I’m not happy with the way he handled the Cuba flotilla, I’m not happy with his uncritical endorsement of Platner and Sanders.

What do you dislike about the way he handled the Cuba flotilla? Not trying to start an argument, just curious.

tomiant 6d ago

See? Here we are talking about his dog instead of his message. I don’t know what his message is, I don’t know if I really wanna care, but still.

Did you reply to the wrong comment?

nOPE.

I was asking @[email protected] their opinion on how Hasan mishandled the Cuba flotilla. You’re literally the only one in this thread who mentioned his dog.

tomiant 4d ago

I went back and checked and I completely misread. My bad.

Vupware 6d ago

Really it’s just a colossal waste of resources. The Gaza flotilla made sense because absolutely zero aid was getting in. With Cuba, there are countless international organizations with already established infrastructure that could use the flotilla funds much, much more efficiently.

Also, wasn’t he only there for two days? He could have done more than just vlog; he could have stayed to hand out cash to the needy in droves, what with him being a millionaire and all.

It felt like a disingenuous clout grab to me.

The Cuba flotilla was organized by an international coalition of individuals and organizations who made an open call for more organizations to join the effort, and many did; 650 delegates from 33 countries and 120 organizations. Hasan Piker was part of a delegation of journalists and influencers there to document and raise awareness of the blockade. Together the volunteers delivered 20 tons of food, medicine, and solar panels, which is nothing to scoff at. Also, Hasan is working on a documentary that he made from interviewing people in Cuba, and didn’t actually do much vlogging because of the blackout. I don’t think he has said if he contributed any personal funds to the effort but he isn’t the type to publicize that.

Nuestra América Convoy

We are mobilizing to Cuba, bringing critical humanitarian aid for its people.

Vupware 6d ago

I wonder, how much does 20 tons do for the people? And the website does not mention plans for another convoy :(

I noticed they brought solar panels with them; that’s what Cuba needs right now. AFAIK, their non-energy imports have not been affected by this new blockade.

I’m any case (tangent), uncritical support of Platner and Bernie are concerns for me. With his influence, he could be pushing for proper progressive candidates. He has so much influence I feel as if he could really set the groundwork for a national movement, and yet he insists on working within the system. Admittedly, I am ignorant on this point, and establishing a proper third party is certainly easier said than done.

Also, I hardly ever watch him. I just know that the moment he sits down with a politician he sucks their dick and never presses them on the issues that supposedly matter most to him (US-Israel relations, US imperialism, &c.).

Revolver1864 Apr 1

hasan uses a shock collar to keep his dog confined to a small area, he will do it to anything living he deems beneath him. Fuck hasan.

EmpathicVagrant 6d ago

What, like an invisible fence situation? Aren’t those insanely common in suburbs and the like?

nandeEbisu 6d ago

Nah, there’s a clip of his dog tripping on something and yelping while his hand was in a weird spot and people love to dog pile on him.

It doesn’t help that he has the worst PR instincts when crises happen.

I’m not a fan, but think he’s a net positive. He clearly excuses abuses by China, but also does useful analysis of current events in a historical context with actual analysis usually. It’s not like his community is an echo chamber either, they’re constantly shitting on him and calling him out of things, but as a whole they stick around, listen and get more involved with progressive causes.

starman2112 6d ago

To my recollection, it was an actual remote controlled shock/vibration collar. The exact model people found lets you remove the electrodes altogether to prevent any risk of shock, which people somehow used as proof that he had been shocking her

toad 6d ago

i use one on my wife and she’s not complaining

DoubleDongle Apr 1

Doesn’t he shill for the Kremlin?

BetaDoggo_6d ago

He’s a bit tankie but not that tankie

Hubi 5d ago

He claimed it’s Ukraines own fault that they got invaded right after saying Russia would never start a war with them.

It’s because liberals are retards. They support genocide, but get their panties in a bunch over words.

Point proven!

Any article, or does OP just imagine everyone here knows what the fuck this is about and who this person is?

Goodeye8 6d ago

Considering how much American politics seeps through online spaces you’d have to be living under a political rock to not know who Hasan Piker is. He’s one of the biggest leftist, like actually leftist not “neoliberal leftist”, political commentator online. As for what the meme is referencing, it’s this.

Why some Democrats want to shut off Hasan Piker’s ‘megaphone’

The popular streamer’s rise as a Democratic influencer coincides with the party’s long search for a path out of the wilderness.

Politico

glimse 6d ago

Who is the guy in the picture and why did his tiktok get screen capped though?

Duitara 6d ago

That’s Walter Masterson, a comedian and satirist that produces a lot of progressive content. He does stunts like going to republican rallies to mock their political rhetoric.

Goodeye8 6d ago

Oh, that I have no fucking clue. I just assumed that’s a random nobody in the image and the person we’re talking about is the referenced “Twitch Streamer”, Hasan Piker.

Feathercrown 6d ago

I rarely even hear his name

Ryanmiller70 6d ago

I think I’ve heard the name a few times, but never bothered to watch or look up much about him. Only political “influencers” or whatever I watch are Big Joel and (I guess technically) Stephanie Sterling.

Rugnjr 3d ago

I’m in a leftist group that regularly discussed politics. I know one guy who follows him, and regularly talks like this (he’s the biggest happening thing, a huge voice on the left etc)

Noone else thinks about or talks about him. I’m not here to trash on the guy, hes probably fine. It’s more a point about the usefulness of twitch as a political project. It’s a deeply insular place. Much like it’s annoying when people act as though niche twitter stuff is world news

Goodeye8 3d ago

Just out of curiosity, who do you think are the big leftist political pundits? Who does you group regularly bring up?

Rugnjr 3d ago

It’s a fair critique. I suppose i dont really know many pundits that aren’t of this type of another.

I suppose I don’t think “pundits” as a concept is really that important to us. It’s like asking what literary critics a writers group talks about a lot, we’re more interested in the politics than talking about the people talking about the people talking about the…

Kinda the whole point is that we want to think about the interesting problems ourselves rather than having other people do it

a_non_monotonic_function 6d ago

Walter? Yes.

Lumisal 6d ago

The only thing I know about that Hassan guy is that he uses a shock collar on his dog. Thought that was what he was best known for after all the memes

Wasn’t that fake

Nope, people proved it was a shock collar by finding the exact model when he tried briefly showing it on camera to supposedly prove that it wasn’t.

ZombiFrancis 6d ago

Yep. Hasan’s hate machine still runs with it anyway, since he draws kids away from the groypers and manosphere shit. They’re reliant on the lack of scrutiny.

EmptyAsparagus 6d ago

well, they get payed by the same people, so they serve the same interest

cøre 6d ago

*paid

Sgt_choke_n_stroke 6d ago

What is going on in here? Most of the comments are blue maga.

Thales 6d ago

No kidding!

Some of these comments are unhinged. We’re drowning in a sea of fascism and folks are still doing purity tests and believing BS from right wing sources.

new_world_odor 6d ago

Fucking purity testing bullshit, fully functional and operational at the highest levels. The left will purity test itself into extinction if it doesn’t realize it’s happening.

Thales 6d ago

Precisely. The right will vote for anyone no matter how terrible they are and we’re busy self defeating.

agent_nycto 5d ago

Yeah, as soon as you say “look the Democrats suck but it’s the best chance we have to not have a Republican in office right now, with how things are now” you get jumped by people going NO NEVER VOTE DEMOCRAT ONLY THIRD PARTY YOU’RE A SHILL BLUE NO MATTER WHO IS BULLSHIT BOTH SIDES ARE CAPITALIST AND THE SAME

backalleycoyote 6d ago

I don’t expect purity but I expect the ability to self-reflect and grow when personal behaviors are questioned by others who share a substantial amount of your world views. Instead of exploring his relationship with his dog (owner/accessory), he doubled down and his fanbase closed ranks to defend a behavior a lot of people find abhorrent. Treating animals like property and setting unrealistic expectations for their compliance while you use them as a backdrop is not a leftist virtue. A loyal audience is not there to normalize abusive behavior and run with the narrative “any questioning of what happened is a right wing attempt to undermine him”. A person can talk all the talk they want, if their walk doesn’t match the tone and they cannot accept that their views may occasionally need growth, fuck ‘em. We don’t need leftist demagogues, we need leaders and speakers with character who aren’t afraid to confront themselves and their beliefs.

Jax 5d ago

Instead of exploring his relationship with his dog (owner/accessory)

All of this comment points to you needing to gain some emotional maturity. You sound as if you’ve either never owned a dog or have only ever owned already trained dogs.

I can grab a piece of paper loudly and my dog will crumple as if I’ve beaten her every day of her life. Never hit her once. Never shocked her with a collar, only ever used the beeps and vibration. All I need to do is pick up the remote and she will cower. Mind you, I shower this dog with love every day and again — I’ve never once hurt her besides maybe stepping on her tail.

I think you need to exhibit some personal growth here, tbh. If your reasons for disliking Hasan stem from this one incident vs the blatant hypocrisy he’s already shown — you need to rethink some things.

backalleycoyote 5d ago

It’s disappointing that you discredit criticism of harm to another living creature while considering materialism like a house a bigger hypocrisy. They’re not mutually exclusive.

And you’re correct, I have never “owned” a dog. I’ve shared my life journey with many, but I didn’t “own” them. They’re not property even if the law and society view them as such. You conditioned your dog to cower at the sight of you picking up a remote? For fuck’s sake, you conditioned your dog to cower at a behavior that resulted in no physical consequence, just the idea it could result in physical consequence. What the fuck is wrong with you!?!